Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!info-high-audio-request From: wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin) Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end Subject: Magic Clocks Message-ID: <9943@uwm.edu> Date: 5 Mar 91 13:59:00 GMT Sender: news@uwm.edu Lines: 71 Approved: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Well, does anyone out there have anything to say about this business of digital clocks affecting the sound of a high-end system? In case this elicits the same "huh?" response I gave when I began reading the March '91 Stereophile, let me elaborate. As I understand it, somebody began marketing a Radio Shack digital clock (one with big digits, either the 63-766 or 63-808, not sure which but probably the former) at some hefty multiple of the original R-S price, claiming that it had been altered to somehow "smooth the electron flow" and that plugging this thing in would make your system sound better, grow hair on bald heads, stave off falling meteors, and produce world peace... Anyway, Stereophile's "Industry Insider" column has mentions of this in the May and October 1990 issues, and the March '91 issue has a review of the Tice "T.P.T. Clock", a $350 modified Spartus digital alarm clock, and an editorial discussing this phenomenon. Tom Graham here on this list alluded to this subject in a posting "Worried about Stereophile" back on 1 Feb 91, but I haven't seen any other discussion on the subject. People at Stereophile took apart the Radio Shack rebranded/repriced clock and reported that it was not modified physically. But then they stated that an ordinary Radio Shack clock *also* had an effect of improving the sound of the test system! At $25 it was a reasonable tweak, even if totally inexplicable -- it's an OK clock, after all... The Tice clock seems to be "modified" in a non-physical way. Like the maker waves his hands over it and chants incantations, or sprinkles it with holy water, or takes it with him when his friends from the astral plane abduct him in their saucer-shaped craft... (The process seems to be secret.) Tice's comments in the "manufacturer replies" section explicitly state that there is no relation between the cost of the "treatment" and the price charged for the product. Now, on the whole, I would ascribe the perceived changes to the placebo effect, and dismiss the issue as further evidence that audiophilia = insanity. But I would like to get the subject tied down a little more firmly in the details. So I have some questions. Does anyone have answers? 1) These are not placed in the AC line between the mains source and the system-power input, if there is a single one. So what is the method of connection? Are they supposed to be plugged into the *same circuit* as the hifi system? What if the system has its own dedicated circuit? Or is it physical nearness that matters? That is, is the clock supposed to be in the same room as the system? If so, same room as the speakers or the electronics? (Mine are in separate rooms, and many others are also so split.) How is "room" defined here? 2) Has anyone read the Tice "T.P.T." literature and could you summarize its claims? What about claims from other vendors? 3) This sounds more like something from Auntie Enid at TAS than from Stereophile. My TAS subscription is in a state of flux right now and I'm waiting for some back issues to arrive in the mail. Has this stuff been discussed in TAS, and can someone point me to issues and article titles or page numbers? Or has TAS avoided this? 4) Have any of the other esoteric publications embraced this? I haven't been seeing any except TAS, Stereophile, and $ensible Sound for some years now. I thought Hi Fi Heretic was the only other high-end mag in current production. Are there others still coming out? Hmmm... If we can get the people who have the transcendant inner ability to perform this process and impart these magic characteristics to electronics to cooperate, we can have a parallel to the "blessing of the animals" at hi-fi shows, as long lines of audiophiles lug their components and household appliances into the sanctuary, dropping their offerrings into the plate and passing their gear under the curtain into the presence of the modifier, who will perform the ritual and pass the cured component back out to the waiting arms of its owner... :-) Regards, Will wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil