Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!uwm.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: gabriele@riverdale.toronto.edu (Mark Gabriele ) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: The F-111 tragicomedy (was Re: B2 vs. F117A) Message-ID: <1991Mar4.204930.4811@cbnews.att.com> Date: 4 Mar 91 20:49:30 GMT References: <1991Feb26.011655.5357@cbnews.att.com> <1991Feb28.050855.8085@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (william.b.thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 18 Approved: military@att.att.com From: gabriele@riverdale.toronto.edu (Mark Gabriele ) [brief discussion of the F-111 saga omitted] I was astonished to read in Tuesday's NYT about an F-111 that encountered an Iraqi helicopter in flight and had *no* armament suitable for dealing with it. How can it be that a plane that is ostensibly a *fighter* would have no cannon, no missiles, nothing? Can anyone illuminate this for me? (Note: the F-111 pilot thought fast and dropped a laser-guided 2000-lb BOMB on the helicopter - and actually hit it. Amazingly effective, both from a cost and kill standpoint, but hardly recommended dogfight procedure. I can just hear the preflight briefing: "Now if you've got to get into the furball, make sure you're on top....") =Mark (gabriele@hub.toronto.edu)