Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: jtchew@csa2.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Defeat of Armies Summary: Depends on the army Keywords: Study on defeated armies Message-ID: <1991Mar4.205706.5907@cbnews.att.com> Date: 4 Mar 91 20:57:06 GMT References: <1991Feb26.011946.5763@cbnews.att.com> <1991Feb28.050206.6884@cbnews.att.com> <1991Mar1.052019.28269@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (william.b.thacker) Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA Lines: 11 Approved: military@att.att.com From: jtchew@csa2.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) Some armies' doctrine and training is superior to others at enabling and encouraging cut-off elements to keep fighting. An example is discussed in the book "Death of a Division" (can't recall author), which goes into the Wehrmacht idea of a "wanderkessel," a group of isolated troops still doing their thing. But we wander into soc.history territory's kessel... --Joe "Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"