Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero-c!nadel From: vicki@mathcs.emory.edu (Vicki Powers) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: AA and the roles of men/women in society. Message-ID: <7047@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> Date: 28 Feb 91 19:32:19 GMT References: Sender: news@aero.org Organization: Math & Computer Science, Emory University, Atlanta, GA Lines: 36 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org In article , sobleski@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Mark Sobolewski) writes: > > Now, with respect to _women_ and _only_ women and AA, let me say that > women are different than the other named cases in the sense that they > can, and do, marry into wealth. Since the social and legal > constraints forcing men to make more are separate from AA, it makes > sense that AA is not going to have much effect on these, no? > > AA is _never_ ever ever EVER! going to result in women having equality > in the workplace as long as men are expected by other pressures to be > superior. What AA can and does do, however, is "encourage" more women > in the workplace giving them an edge while men are simply trying to > survive. If a woman wants a man to make more than her, he now has to > work harder than before women's liberation "freed us" for less money. This is where you lose me, Mark. I'll agree that SOME women think men should make more than them, but certainly not all women and I don't even believe that most women think men should make more than they do. I certainly don't believe this, and none of the women I know well believe this. Are you really saying that women should make less than men because some women feel that they should? Why should I be paid less for my work than a man who does the same work simply because of the misguided, sexist assumptions of some women? I'm not even talking about AA here, but simply equal pay for equal work (which, according to your argument, is bad). Furthermore, it's possible for MEN to marry into wealth, it happens all the time. I don't get it - what does marrying into wealth have to do with AA? Is "women making more money" the only goal of AA (or a goal at all)? Vicki -- Vicki Powers | vicki@mathcs.emory.edu PREFERRED Emory University | {sun!sunatl,gatech}!emory!vicki UUCP Dept of Math and CS | vicki@emory NON-DOMAIN BITNET Atlanta, GA 30322 |