Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!usc!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!ucsd!nosc!cod!reuter From: reuter@cod.NOSC.MIL (Michael Reuter) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Yet another sampling issue Keywords: stochastic processes Message-ID: <2895@cod.NOSC.MIL> Date: 8 Mar 91 22:41:42 GMT Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego Lines: 38 The recent deluge of postings regarding sampling and the Nyquist rate led me to think of an issue that I thought about a while back. The DSP books that I have discuss the sampling rate with regards to a deterministic function whose Fourier transform exists (absolutely integrable etc.). However in many applications we don't sample such functions; we sample stochastic processes where the Fourier integral probably doesn't exist. Let's assume we have a classical spectral estimation problem where we sample a second-order wide sense stationary, ergodic, bandlimited process x(t). Let's also assume we can analytically compute the autocorrelation function r(tau) of the continuous process via the integral equation defining the time average, i.e., /L r(tau) = lim 1/2L | x(t + tau)x(t) dt. (1) L -> inf /-L Its PSD is S(jw). Now the sampling problem applied to r(tau) directly relates to the traditional Nyquist problem. However we don't sample r(tau) we sample x(t). The problem is: how often must we temporally sample x(t) (getting x(n)) so that we can get a "good" estimate of r(m) (m is a discrete time lag) and thus a "good" estimate of S(e(jw)). Let's say S(jw) is bandpass with cutoff frequency of wc. Do we just have to sample > wc? In practice we do, but S(e(jw)) is not equal to S(jw) even at this rate. To see this just interpret (1) in the Riemann sense, sample x(t), and compare the discrete time average summation equation _N r(m) = lim 1/(2N+1) >_ x(n+m)x(n) (2) N -> inf -N to (1). You will see that the discrete time average (2) is an approximation of (1). However we can get r(m) arbitrarily close to r(tau) as we sample at higher and higher rates. Since x(t) is bandlimited the error |r(tau) - r(m)| (or |S(jw) - S(e(jw))|) must be bounded, but by how much? The error must then be related to the cutoff frequency wc, but how? My guess is that something interesting must happen as we pass through the Nyquist rate. The error might plummet just above wc and then monotonically decrease beyond that. This is probably a well known problem to mathematicians.