Xref: utzoo news.groups:28756 news.admin:12645 comp.mail.misc:5015 Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!vsi1!zorch!xanthian From: xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) Newsgroups: news.groups,news.admin,comp.mail.misc Subject: Possible mail problems with "CFV: talk.politics.aids" Message-ID: <1991Mar10.105015.1543@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Date: 10 Mar 91 10:50:15 GMT References: <}#9-MV%@rpi.edu> Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix Lines: 128 Despite my mailer turning the "Reply-To: tpa-vote%wolves@cs.duke.edu" of the call for votes posting in news.announce.newgroups into the perfectly reasonable: > uupath tpa-vote$wolves@cs.duke.edu ames!gatech!mcnc!duke!wolves!tpa-vote The mail does not in fact make it to the vote taker; delivery is attempted at cs.duke.edu rather than at wolves. In hopes that an early report of problems can keep the vote from being messed up, here's the bounce message (sorry for the mess, I really don't know enough about email to know what's important here); long lines are wrapped to make the box routine work, and tabs are expanded, and I nuked the content of my vote from the original Subject line; otherwise, this is what the bounce looked like: /------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | | | From ames!gatech!mcnc.org!wolves!mcnc!mcnc.org!MAILER-DAEMON | | Sat Mar 9 18:20:36 1991 | | Return-Path: | | Received: by zorch.SF-Bay.ORG | | (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.5) | | id ; | | Sat, 9 Mar 91 18:20 PST | | Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.64/1.2); | | Sat, 9 Mar 91 16:35:42 -0800 | | Received: from mcnc.mcnc.org by gatech.edu (4.1/Gatech-9.1) | | id AA28863 for zorch!xanthian; | | Sat, 9 Mar 91 19:30:15 EST | | Received: by mcnc.mcnc.org (5.59/MCNC/6-11-90) | | id AA29421; Sat, 9 Mar 91 19:30:11 -0500 | | for ames!zorch!xanthian@gatech.edu | | Received: by wolves.UUCP (smail2.3) | | id AA07829; 9 Mar 91 19:00:12 EST (Sat) | | Received: by mcnc.mcnc.org (5.59/MCNC/6-11-90) | | id AB27015; Sat, 9 Mar 91 17:34:49 -0500 | | for mcnc!gatech.edu!ames!zorch!xanthian | | Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 17:34:49 -0500 | | From: Mail Delivery Subsystem | | | | Subject: Returned mail: User unknown | | Message-Id: <9103092234.AB27015@mcnc.mcnc.org> | | To: wolves!mcnc!gatech.edu!ames!zorch!xanthian@mcnc.org | | Status: R | | | | ----- Transcript of session follows ----- | | >>> RCPT To: | | <<< 550 ... User unknown: Invalid argument | | 550 duke!tpa-vote... User unknown | | | | ----- Unsent message follows ----- | | Received: by mcnc.mcnc.org (5.59/MCNC/6-11-90) | | id AA27015; Sat, 9 Mar 91 17:34:49 -0500 | | for tpa-vote@duke.cs.duke.edu | | Received: by wolves.UUCP (smail2.3) | | id AA07272; 9 Mar 91 17:27:51 EST (Sat) | | Received: by mcnc.mcnc.org (5.59/MCNC/6-11-90) | | id AA25160; Sat, 9 Mar 91 15:54:07 -0500 | | for mcnc!duke!tpa-vote | | Received: from gatech.UUCP by gatech.edu (4.1/Gatech-9.1) | | id AA24800 for wolves!mcnc!duke!tpa-vote; | | Sat, 9 Mar 91 15:11:42 EST | | Received: from gatech.edu by gatech.UUCP (4.1/SMI-4.1) | | id AA08641; Sat, 9 Mar 91 15:11:21 EST | | Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by gatech.edu | | (4.1/Gatech-9.1) | | id AA24793 for mcnc!duke!tpa-vote@wolves; | | Sat, 9 Mar 91 15:11:18 EST | | Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.64/1.2); | | Sat, 9 Mar 91 12:11:15 -0800 | | Received: by zorch.SF-Bay.ORG | | (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.5) | | id ; | | Sat, 9 Mar 91 11:35 PST | | Message-Id: | | Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 11:35 PST | | From: gatech.edu!ames!zorch.SF-Bay.ORG!xanthian@mcnc | | (Kent Paul Dolan) | | To: cs.duke.edu!tpa-vote@wolves | | Subject: XXXXX vote on talk.politics.aids as proposed | | Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,soc.motss,talk.politics.misc, | | talk.religion.misc,sci.med,sci.med.aids | | In-Reply-To: <}#9-MV%@rpi.edu> | | Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix | | Cc: | | | \------------------------------------------------------------------------/ Notice that, at least according to my uupath report, that last "To:" line is _not_ how the mail left here. In fact, here's the header from my "record" copy of the outbound mail. /------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | | | From xanthian Sat Mar 9 11:35:54 1991 | | Return-Path: | | Received: by zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.5) | | id ; Sat, 9 Mar 91 11:35 PST | | Message-Id: | | Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 11:35 PST | | From: xanthian (Kent Paul Dolan) | | To: tpa-vote%wolves@cs.duke.edu | | Subject: XXXXX vote on talk.politics.aids as proposed | | Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,soc.motss, | | talk.politics.misc,talk.religion.misc,sci.med,sci.med.aids | | In-Reply-To: <}#9-MV%@rpi.edu> | | Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix | | Cc: | | Status: R | | | \------------------------------------------------------------------------/ [It would be more than dandy if nobody's mail software felt compelled to muck about with the original "To:" line so that it was still around for the record. Someone along the path butchered mine, but there's no way to know who it was from the bounce message.] If this is in any case a local problem, sorry for cluttering up the net with it. Kent, the man from xanth.