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From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew)
Newsgroups: news.admin,news.misc,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: New rules for UUPSI
Message-ID: <ZTTHy10w163w@mantis.co.uk>
Date: 8 Mar 91 13:54:46 GMT
References: <1991Mar06.232416.769@jpradley.jpr.com>
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.
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jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley) writes:
> In article <1991Mar04.221119.5075@utoday.com> sean@utoday.com (Sean Fulton) w
> >The thrust of this letter is that they are changing terms of user
> >contracts to say that since we're paying so little for a News/Mail
> >feed, we can't turn around and feed anyone else.
> >
> >I'm not sure how they plan to enforce this, but the new terms state
> >that mail for ``another organization'' can not be sent nor received
> >through PSI, and that if you send your UUPSI news feed to another
> >site, no posts from that site can come back through PSI.
[...]
> They seem to be defining "another organization" to be any other machine which
> hass uucp connections to mine, thereby immediately making the domain which th
> registered for me be a single site.

I'd just like to point out that what PSI seem to be trying to do seems to be
no more Evil and Rude than what UKnet does to all of the UK UUCP sites.

Specifically:

To become a UK .co.uk UUCP site, you must pay a quarterly fee to UKnet,
amounting to $170/quarter or thereabouts at current exchange rates.

If you take any amount of news, you must pay a flat-rate fee of $40/month to
UKnet. Even if you only take one newsgroup.

This payment entitles one news site to obtain news and reply to it. UKnet
state:

  "The definition of a news-site is a single machine or a group of machines
   in a single organisation/institution (sic) on a single site"

  "Every site which polls ukc will be liable for the news and mail charges
   for any other site which they poll (or are polled by) unless the
   secondary site has registered with ukc."

This last paragraph has the same practical effect as saying that you can't
distribute news to a site not registered with UKC/UKnet.

So if you're all going to flame PSI, there are certain other organizations
you might like to have a word with...


mathew
[ The worst bit is that when UKnet say "We are the net", they mean it. ]