Xref: utzoo news.newusers.questions:4331 comp.misc:11679 Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!caen!ox.com!ox.com!emv From: emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,comp.misc Subject: Re: telnet list ? Message-ID: Date: 12 Mar 91 07:16:45 GMT References: <1991Mar12.045642.6999@csn.org> Sender: usenet@ox.com (Usenet News Administrator) Followup-To: comp.misc Organization: OTA Limited Partnership, Ann Arbor MI. Lines: 125 In-Reply-To: sullivan@csn.csn.org's message of Tue, 12 Mar 1991 04:56:42 GMT In article <1991Mar12.045642.6999@csn.org> sullivan@csn.csn.org (Steve Sullivan) writes: Is there a list of sites accepting telnet, showing the information they provide? For example, rumor has it that various library card catalogs are available via telnet ... where? Sadly enough there is no "libraries and librarians" newsgroup, those folks all seem to be off on mailing lists somewhere. I happen to know that there are at least two of these listings. Further discussion should probably go to comp.misc, or if you get it look at PACS-L (Public Access Computer Systems Forum), join it with a message to LISTSERV@UHUPVM1.BITNET. If you look at wuarchive.wustl.edu:/usenet/comp.archives/Index you'll see a nice big list of the headers of all of the comp.archives articles that they have stored there. Grepping through that list for "library", I find this that looks reasonable comp.archives 900810.02 [bit.listserv.pacs-l] New Release of Internet Library List comp.archives 901119.08 [comp.misc...] Internet library guide - additions requested comp.archives 901203.22 [tcp-ip...] New release of Internet library guide comp.archives 910223.10 [comp.misc...] Internet Library Guide you can find the actual articles stored in that collection. In the absence of any other clues, you should look in archie; I'm pretty sure that the gentleman from MIT has described it recently, but the short answer is "telnet quiche.cs.mcgill.ca; login: archie". There are a lot of things that match "library", including for a start ariel.unm.edu:/library/internet.library ucdavis.ucdavis.edu:/pub/Internet.Resource.Guide/library_cat/ it should prove fruitful to ftp to these places and see what there is. The one at ariel reads: Internet- Accessible Library Catalogs & Databases January 28, 1991 Dr. Art St. George, University of New Mexico Dr. Ron Larsen, University of Maryland Edited by Karen McKelvey, CERFnet INTRODUCTION Internet-Accessible Library Catalogs and Databases is coauthored by Dr. Art St. George of the University of New Mexico and Dr. Ron Larsen of the University of Maryland. Dr. St. George says this document, began as an effort to provide additional service to the network community locally. However, it became apparent that the library resources were of broader appeal than that. It contains a listing of over 100 online library catalogs and databases available within the United States and beyond. It contains listings of U.S. and international library catalogs and databases, dial-up libraries, Campus-Wide Online Information Systems, and bulletin board systems. Each listing gives a brief description of the resource and instructions on how to access it, as well as places to contact for more information. Listings include such material as Columbia University's online library catalog (CLIO), Pennsylvanias State University online card catalog system (PENpages), and the Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries (CARL) and its 25 individual resource listings of libraries and information databases, such as the Metro Denver Facts database. This catalog is an ongoing project. If you have any suggestions, comments, or additions, please send them to Dr. Art St. George by electronic mail to stgeorge@unmb.bitnet or stgeorge@bootes.unm.edu. This document is formatted and edited by Karen McKelvey of the California Education and Research Federation Network (CERFnet) (karen@cerf.net). Carlos Robles of CERFnet also contributes to the formatting of this document. This one is quite comprehensive but rather difficult to read; more like a compendium of whatever the system provider decided to send than a uniform access instruction list. Lots of details, enough information to call up a librarian on the phone if you really needed to. The second one looks a bit more disjoint; the Internet Resources Guide (if you poke around a bit) has things organized in one item per file, and there are lots of disclaimers. There's a third one which I know about (how? I just do) that is produced by Billy Barron (billy@vaxb.acs.unt.edu). archie doesn't pick it up because archie doesn't understand VMS. Look on vaxb.acs.unt.edu:LIBRARIES.TXT This is pretty good on getting you in and out of a bunch of libraries. It's real clear about what software the system is running and the keystrokes needed to get to it. There are generic instructions on how to use each one, and not a lot of verbiage on what machine the catalog is running on, phone numbers, times of operation, or anything like that. UNT's Accessing On-Line Bibliographic Databases By Billy Barron, billy@vaxb.acs.unt.edu (C) 1989, 1990, 1991 University of North Texas Introduction Over the last several years, most university libraries have switched from a manual (card) cataloging system to a computerized cataloging system. The computerized cataloging systems provide users with easy to access and up-to- date information about the books available in the library. This ease of access has been accomplished with the advent of local area networks, dialup modems, and wide area networks. For example, anybody on the University of North Texas campus who has access to the Sytek Local Area Network or the campus-wide Ethernet can access the UNT's library computer system. Also, UNT has dialup modems. Through these modems anybody with a computer, a modem, and a telecommunication package, such as PROCOMM, can access the library computer from home. The wide area networks allow users free access to other universities' library systems around the world. -- Anyway, that should get you started. -- Msen Edward Vielmetti /|--- moderator, comp.archives emv@msen.com