Xref: utzoo comp.os.msdos.programmer:3866 comp.windows.ms.programmer:1283 Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!sjsca4!poffen From: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.windows.ms.programmer Subject: Re: Borland C++ 2.0, report #2 Message-ID: <1991Mar11.211703.137@sj.ate.slb.com> Date: 11 Mar 91 21:17:03 GMT References: <1991Mar4.150257.422@ccad.uiowa.edu> <1991Mar7.151918.21996@isis.cs.du.edu> Reply-To: poffen@SunOS (Russ Poffenberger) Distribution: na Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca. Lines: 60 In article <1991Mar7.151918.21996@isis.cs.du.edu> ebergman@isis.UUCP (Eric Bergman-Terrell) writes: > >Where is the Help compiler for BC++ 2.0 - it's in the mail. It is supposed >to be sent to registered users within a month or so. Negotiations for the >help compiler weren't complete when the package was shipped. > >About windows.h slowing things down - use the precompiled headers option! >I haven't bothered yet because my application, which includes windows.h still >doesn't take more that about 20 - 30 seconds to compile & link. > >While everyone is saying that you "have to get the SDK to develop applications >in BC++ 2.0" I'm developing applications without it. > >SO WHAT's THE DEAL: What is in the MS Windows SDK that isn't available in >the BC++ 2.0 PACKAGE??????? > >Books on Windows Programming (yes - but I bought Petzold's for $30.00) > >WHAT ELSE??? > You DO NOT need the SDK to build windows applications with BC++. I finally got around to installing BC++ on the weekend and I like it. The pre-compiled headers (-H compiler switch) helps a lot. I also tried TDW (Turbo Debugger for Windows) and it is pretty neat too. Better than CVW. I have yet to understand though why even though I use TDW with a secondary monochrome monitor instead of screen switching (-do switch to TDW), it messes up my primary VGA colors. I have heard that screen switching on the primary VGA will mess up colors if don't use a standard driver (I use V7 Fastwrite 800 X 600 X 16), but if I use the mono monitor for debugging, it seems it shouldn't mess up my VGA. Oh well, I can live with it. One note on the installation for users who also have other packages. I also have Turbo C++ 1.0 Pro. I didn't change my path correctly so that my BC++ directory was before my TC++ directory. This caused problems because it used the wrong tlink. (BC tlink is 4.0, TC tlink is 3.5). This may cause problems for othe "pro" packages that are in both TC++ and BC++ as well. I also had some problems because I also have SDK, and the SDK path was also before BC++. I got some unexplained errors from rc (another duplicate program name don't ya know.) that cleared up when I made sure my BC path was before all other development paths. I also got a newsletter from Borland. It had some interesting information, and an example of some classes for windows. It has an application class, a font class, and a base windows class. I was able to get the example working, and made a few mods to it. It makes the "main" part of the program only about 10 lines for a simple application that opens two windows and writes a "hello" message. Should be a good starting point for other classes. I got mail from Sidney at Borland. The Petzold book coupon will definitely come with the help compiler. Pretty good so far. I think we ought to encourage the sharing of ideas about Windows class libraries. Any comments? Russ Poffenberger DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com Schlumberger Technologies UUCP: {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen 1601 Technology Drive CIS: 72401,276 San Jose, Ca. 95110 (408)437-5254