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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Still no Ami businessware.
Message-ID: <19656@cbmvax.commodore.com>
Date: 8 Mar 91 23:50:57 GMT
References: <39774@cup.portal.com> <39832@cup.portal.com> <1991Mar6.201318.11662@acd4.acd.com>
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
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In article <1991Mar6.201318.11662@acd4.acd.com> swm@acd4.acd.com ( Scott W. Manzi (ICTT)) writes:
>In article <39832@cup.portal.com> Doug_B_Erdely@cup.portal.com writes:
>>SO? What does this have to do with Commodore? Try writing the software
>>companies that write this trash! Let THEM know what you think of THEIR
>>software!

>Gee, why does NeXT with a trivial installed base have MAJOR software
>vendors porting code to that machine?   because the COMPANY behind the
>machine motivated them to do so perhaps?

Yes they did.  With money.  Geeters.  Green.  Scratch.  Moula.  

If you have a couple of million in pocket, Lotus would be more than happy
to build you a port of 1-2-3, or the new spreadsheet on the NeXT.  No problem.
No argument.

>I mean MOTIVATING the vendors to port their stuff to the Amiga platform, like
>Jobs did...

You just have to realize what MOTIVATION means to the large companies.  It does
not mean a direct line to the developer support group, or loaner system, or
anything else Commodore would be more than willing to supply.  It means BIG
BUCKS, and nothing else.

I'm not really sure going after #1 in the PC market for any particular product
is a good thing, anyway.  Sure, it makes for good press.  But in most case,
the #1 product is rather weak when compared to #'s 2..N.  Even Microsoft makes
a better spreadsheet for the PC than Lotus, they just aren't the established 
one.  Once a market reaches full maturity, standards tend to cause stagnation,
and the "best" only rarely does a big business against the "established".

>Sorry Doug, I think it has a LOT to do with Commodore.  After all, THEY are
>responsible for the success of their machine, not us.  

"The Amiga", like any other computer system, is a complete environment.  As
in all environments, every member of that environment is responsible for the
success of the environment as a whole.  Commodore can certainly do its part,
but it is no magician.  It cannot perform miracles, anymore than Delaware can
decide on its own to solve the problems that currently exist in the 
ecopolitical environment we call the USA.  Commodore and Amiga together
created this Amiga environment, but it is hardly all powerful, certainly not
the sole participant.

-- 
Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
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