Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga.misc:1628 comp.sys.mac.misc:9439 comp.sys.mac.games:3365 comp.sys.amiga.games:5023 Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!ducvax.auburn.edu!ducvax.auburn.edu!cs220x2a From: cs220x2a@ducvax.auburn.edu (CS220X) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.amiga.games Subject: Re: Mac and Amiga (Games--Macintosh vs A500) Message-ID: <91MAR12.134551@ducvax.auburn.edu> Date: 12 Mar 91 18:45:51 GMT References: <98707@unix.cis.pitt.edu> <1991Mar4.031438.21675@kessner.denver.co.us> <27373@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> <1991Mar10.182432.9314@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu> Reply-To: cs220x2a@ducvax.auburn.edu Organization: Auburn University Lines: 52 Nntp-Posting-Host: ducvax.auburn.edu News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 Lines: 52 >onto another disk or on the hard drive. Wrong!! When I tried saving the file, >a requester came up asking for "such and such disk" to be replaced in the >drive!?! Why? I wanted to save the file on another disk. No problem, I >thought, I'll just click the "cancel" box. Wait a minute... There is no >cancel box! The machine was completely dead until I replaced THAT SAME DISK >into the drive. I had to go running around campus trying to find my friend >with that disk just so I could stick it into that stupid drive for that >precious second until it changed disks. > >I don't know. To me this is not what computing is all about. Trying to put >the cursor over a word with the mouse on a puny flickering black & white 9" >screen is not my idea of advanced word processing. When I tried printing the >file, I had to WAIT 20 MINUTES for the printout. The proctor working there >told me this is normal, AppleTalk is just slow. Remember: "Only a Macintosh >gives you so much power to do so many things so quickly and so easily." > > Varun Mitroo > mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu > >PS - When was the last time Apple actually came out with anything innovative >rather than a rehash of old technology? What other company is bringing a new >product with a 68000 in it for $1000? I realize this is a Mac games conference and not supposed to support this kind of debate, but I couldn't let such erroneous comments go by. 1) The reason WordPerfect did not satisfy you is because it is simply a port over from the DOS version. If it implemented the user interface in the way that Apple specifies, you would have had a "Cancel" box, etc., etc. (WordPerfect 2.0 seems much better though). Don't blame the Mac for WordPerfect putting out a sorry product, just switch to Word or MacWrite II. 2) APPLETALK IS NOT MEANT TO COMPETE WITH ETHERNET. It is intended to be an economical (built-in even) networking solution for the small business or other network. You are not supposed to say, wire a university with AppleTalk, though some people, like yourself, think that's what Apple intended. If you want EtherNet speed...BUY ETHERNET! 3) Apple comes out with more innovative products than any other computer company. What company has slashed prices like Apple? What company has introduces new models almost every single year? Face it, Apple is on the cutting edge. Yes, it needs to add a graphics coprocessor, but considering a 16 mhz SE/30 doing all its own graphics can outpreform a 20 mhz 386 running Windows with a separate processor, it's obvious Apple does some amazing technology tricks. Finally, let's move this debate to some other conference...say the Mac miscellaneous or the Amiga advocate. Just tell me where it goes, because those who flame the Mac the most are those who don't use them much. Wade Williams cs220x2a@ducvax.auburn.edu