Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!dimacs.rutgers.edu!seismo!ukma!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!vsnyder From: vsnyder@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Van Snyder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech Subject: Re: MFM hard drive help Message-ID: <1991Mar13.190748.26529@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: 13 Mar 91 19:07:48 GMT References: <523@gcc.uucp> <12052@hydra.Helsinki.FI> <91072.145300GERLOFF@DB0TUI11.BITNET> Reply-To: vsnyder@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Van Snyder) Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Lines: 42 In article <91072.145300GERLOFF@DB0TUI11.BITNET> GERLOFF@tubvm.cs.tu-berlin.de (Olaf Gerloff) writes: >In article <12052@hydra.Helsinki.FI>, luoto@cs.Helsinki.FI (Markku Luoto) says: >> >>I opened it once and the drive was a seagate... but how can you tell wether >>it's a mfm or something else ??? >> > >Hello Markku! > >If the drive was a Seagate it is very easy: Look at the drive type on the cover >If the last character was a digit, it was a MFM drive (e.g. ST 225, 20 MB >5 1/4 inch MFM drive). If the last character was a R, it was an RLL drive >(e.g. ST 238R, 5 1/4 inch 30 MB RLL drive). From the Seagate Catalog, page 27: none = ST412 MFM A = AT bus X = XT bus N = SCSI or SCSI-2 (SCSI-2 is downward compatible with SCSI). ND = Differential SCSI or SCSI-2 NM = Macintosh compatible SCSI V = NetWare ready R = ST412 RLL E = ESDI J = SMD-O/E or SMD-E (dual port) K = IPI-2 (dual port or enhanced dual port) S = synchronized spindle Probably more junk than ST owners need to know. But now if you see one in a surplus store, you'll know what you're up against: for example, there's essentially no hope of connecting an SMD drive to an ST. ND won't work without some different kinds of bidirectional buffers -- the "plain" SCSI is "single ended"; differential SCSI lets you have 10 meters of cable, single ended SCSI lets you have 3 meters (according to the standard, but on my Mac IIci, it craps out with about 2 or 2.5 meters total cable). NM might also be trouble on a typical Supra/ICD/Berkeley ST interface. -- vsnyder@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov ames!elroy!jato!vsnyder vsnyder@jato.uucp