Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!spooky!witr From: witr@rwwa.COM (Robert W. Withrow) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: Re: Mach from mt Xinu Message-ID: <1991Mar9.192526.2572@rwwa.COM> Date: 9 Mar 91 19:25:26 GMT References: <1991Mar5.232240.19264@mtxinu.COM> <1991Mar6.183453.944@rwwa.COM> <23510@well.sf.ca.us> Organization: R.W. Withrow Associates Lines: 67 I am so glad to learn that this group is frequented by such inteligent, helpful, mature folks as series@well.sf.ca.us (Frank Korzeniewski) who writes: ``If I ever run into you I will punch you in the nose'', and chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM (Chip Rosenthal) who writes ``you don't understand jack shit'' and suggests that people like me should ``extricate their heads from their anal cavities''. I'm sure you two will go far in the world with your delightful attitudes. Of course, if you had taken the time to *read* what I wrote, instead of gleefully spewing out your ad hominum brayings, you would have noticed that I said: ``From what I understand of your announcement...''. When Frank says: ``I quote from the documentation supplied with the commercial Mach product..'' he is providing information from a source I don't have. While I am not usually interrest in collecting insults or threats, I genuinely like to get information. So let me assume that Frank (who went to the effort to supply some usefull information, as opposed to Chip, who merely pontificated his opinions) just got carried away with his excitement: >"Mt Xinu warrents to you (the original Licensee) that the Software will >be in operable condition as described in the documentation, and that the >diskettes upon which the Software is furnished will be free from defects >in material and workmanship under normal use, for a period of ninety (90) >days after delivery to you ("Warranty Period"). You must report all defects >within the Warranty Period to be eligible for warranty service." I'm glad to see that Mt Xinu does this; the SYSV vendors generally don't give any real warrantee. You didn't state what ``warranty service'' is defined as, but apparently it is not the same as ``support'' since the two terms are used in different sections. This is not still totally satisfactory, since it does not deal with issues like fitness-to-purpose. Also, since software does not ``wear'', the limitation to 90 days does not make any sense. Nonetheless this beats a blank... Let me make a (hopefully) constructive suggestion to MtXinu that I believe would not adversly affect their profit margin (and would, I believe, actually enhance it by increasing sales): Sell Mach (for the $1000 or $1500 or whatever) with an ``Unlimited Money back Guarantee''. Provide bug fixes (as *distinct* from upgrades and enhancements) for free (perhaps by placing them on UUNET or something). Upgrade and enhance the product once or twice a year for about $200-$300) and handle problems and questions without requiring support contracts. This stragegy limits your support costs because you can always pull the plug and give a refund. And you build an almost fanatical customer loyalty because your customers know you stand behind your product and will either make it work or will give them back their money (``put it in writing''). Additionally, this helps you build a better product because your users will help you with your QC in a co-operative atmosphere (e.g. ``Thank you for reporting that problem. Let's get a fix for you.'') rather than a semi-adversarial one (``I'm sorry, we can't help you unless you send us some more money to fix software that was broken when you bought it from us.''). Of course, there will always be the small percentage of bums who will take undue advantage of the warantee, but experience shows that they are a very small percentage, and that the advantages greatly outweigh the drawbacks. -- --- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA 01907 USA Tel: +1 617 598 4480, Fax: +1 617 598 4430, Net: witr@rwwa.COM