Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!info-high-audio-request From: chowkwan%priam.usc.edu@usc.edu (Raymond Chowkwanyun) Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end Subject: Tice Power Conditioner Message-ID: <10064@uwm.edu> Date: 8 Mar 91 21:46:23 GMT Sender: news@uwm.edu Lines: 72 Approved: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu This is in response to the person from England who asked about mains conditioners. (Translation: mains = power line). Sorry, forgot your name. I've used a Tripplite 1800 to condition the line to my CD player. I had the Tripplite on 30 day trial so I think I was able to be objective (i.e. no feeling of "I've bought the thing, I better like it"). The Tripplite has an LED display which indicates changes in the mains voltage. First I used the CD player without the Tripplite so the Tripplite acted only as an expensive voltage meter. When the voltage was down, the CD sounded thin (thinner than usual that is) and hashy. Plugging into the Tripplite provided welcome relief. On the other hand the Tripplite did not degrade the sound when voltage was normal. CD's are very sensitive to mains voltage. I think this is a worthwhile application for a conditioner and doesn't have to be heinously expensive. The Tripplite was $300. It had been modified for the audio application. (CD player was Sony C7ESD). OK, appetite whetted, I graduated to the big leagues. Dedicated Tice Power Block/Titan for each of my VTL Ichibans. The Power Block is a line conditioner. The Titan plugs into the Power Block and stores energy. (The Titan is actually just a huge transformer coil inside). With the Power Block/Titan the Ichibans offer much greater dynamic range. The difference is not subtle. Without the Tice, the Ichibans sound constricted. There is a real bloom to the sound when the Tice is plugged in. I have one more Power Block/Titan pair with a Micro Block plugged into it for my front end. I tried hard to find a reason not to buy this lot (again on 30 day trial). But the Micro Block adds body to the music. Without it, the instruments sounded thinner and reedier. At this point I was using Concord Jazz LP's with Audioquest 7000/SME V/TNT turntable and MFA Luminesence front end. These LP's are very naturally recorded and have a lot of ambience to them. $10 eaches. Yum. I couldn't tell you why all this stuff works. Maybe if you think of your electronics as a very sophisticated power regulator. Clean power in, clean power out. I will say the Tice stuff is heinously expensive. $2K for the Power Block/Titan. There are other tweaks you can do that cost less and will have more improvement on your sound. A record cleaning machine would be top of my list. (Torumat record cleaning fluid contains no plasticizer leaching alcohol). I assume you have good wires. Then there are various mechanical isolation devices to be investigated like the Brassfield plate, Goldmund Cones, Navcom silencers, Arcici Super Spikes. -- ray