Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: aag@compsci.aberystwyth.ac.uk Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Small Arms Message-ID: <1991Mar8.023724.10739@cbnews.att.com> Date: 8 Mar 91 02:37:24 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (william.b.thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 44 Approved: military@att.att.com From: aag@compsci.aberystwyth.ac.uk In article 8677 of sci.military: scott@swindle.Berkeley.EDU (Scott Silvey) comments: > I noticed some scenes of British infantry scouting out an Iraqi bunker > for hostiles ... they tossed in a grenade. They were carrying a > very modern looking assault rifle that I've never seen before. It > was sand colored and had the magazine (and I assume the firing > mechanism) BEHIND the pistol grip. This makes the weapon somewhat > short I assume. Can anyone explain what rifle this is? Is it > standard issue now? When did they get it? How does it compare > with the M16A2? Its the standard Army issue Enfield SA80 (Bullpup) 5.65mm combat rifle. After extensive testing in the late seventies and early eighties (every so often a picture would show up on the news or in a science and technology programme of a squaddie in Belfast or at Bisley with something that was not a 7.62 FN-FAL wearing a very _worried_ expression), the Army chose it to replace the FN-FAL and it was introduced in about 1985 and has now completely replaced the FAL. Its said to be a very nice rifle indeed, although it has caused horrible problems with drill wherever it goes. Its considerably shorter than the FAL and its butt doesn't reach the ground in "Stand at Ease", so the Army had to rewrite the drill book. I suspect that the sand colouring was masking tape as the examples I've seen have tended to be either uniformly grey/black or green/black camo in colour. As for comparison with the M16A2, well, we didn't buy it . . . Angela E aag@aber.cs (UK) \S Ms A M Gilham \V M aag@cs.aber.ac.uk (inet)\N Dept of Computer Science \O +44 A ...!mcsun!ukc!aber-cs-aag\A University College of Wales,\I 970 622449 I (uucp) \I Aberyswyth, Dyfed. \C L \L SY23 3BZ. UK \E