Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: sandberg@ipla01.hac.COM ("K. M. Sandberg") Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: AA and the roles of men/women in society. Message-ID: <13819@hacgate.UUCP> Date: 13 Mar 91 18:24:30 GMT References: Organization: Natural Order Nature Experiments (N.O.N.E.) Lines: 40 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu [Apologies for the delay in posting. The machine that handles our USENET connection was down for several days. --CTM] In article sobleski@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Mark Sobolewski) writes: >... >Now, with respect to _women_ and _only_ women and AA, let me say that >women are different than the other named cases in the sense that they >can, and do, marry into wealth. Since the social and legal >constraints forcing men to make more are separate from AA, it makes >sense that AA is not going to have much effect on these, no? Sorry, but it does not matter if a person marries into wealth with respect to the ability to get a job if you are qualified. After all if you then must look at the wealth of the person involved in order to determine if they should get the job. Men can also marry into wealth, but I don't see that as a factor in hiring. >... >AA is _never_ ever ever EVER! going to result in women having equality >in the workplace as long as men are expected by other pressures to be >superior. What AA can and does do, however, is "encourage" more women >... You keep talking of pressures that you may feel, but not everyone (even every male) feels such a pressure. I think that it your own personal view that you must be superior to a female in wage earning in order to have a happy life. Consider why you feel that this pressure exists and from whom, and I would not doubt that it is mainly from yourself or people who are looking for a free ride. Kemasa. -- It would be interesting if people would listen to what they are saying, but then again others are not listening either, so why should they? e-mail address: sandberg@ipla01.hac.com