Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: arm@neon.stanford.edu (Alexander d Macalalad) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Gay Ordination in the Presbyterian Church Message-ID: Date: 11 Mar 91 07:37:22 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University, Ca , USA Lines: 31 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article dconnor@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Daren Connor) writes: >Though "political correctness" may not be quite the right term, I don't >believe it's far off. I think what we're seeing, in general, is a lot of >pressures on churches to bend to the man's selfish wants, which are constantly >inflamed by the media. How much of the time do we have shoved down our throats >the message that "sex-is-ok-if-you-really-love-the-person"? You are almost >ridiculed in many social circles if you hold those "antiquated views" about >wanting to reserve your sexuality for the boundaries of marriage, even >though we have examples all around us (unwanted pregnancies, AIDS, etc) of >the consequences of not following this teaching. Of course, this is not to >say that marriage is any panacea; I think we're all aware by now of the >incredible struggles there are in any marriage. So even though "pc" may >be ill-fitting, it's probably the closest term we've got so far. > >- Daren Connor 1) Unwanted pregnancies and AIDS do occur within the boundaries of marriage. (I cannot say anything about "etc".) 2) Unwanted pregnancies and AIDS can effectively be avoided even outside the boundaries of marriage. (Again, "etc" is a mystery to me.) Clearly, if your goal is to teach how to avoid unwanted pregnancies and AIDS, reserve-your-sexuality-for-the-boundaries-of-marriage is the wrong lesson. How many times must I have shoved down my throat the message that "AIDS-is- a-punishment-from-God"? Daren, are you also suggesting that blood transfusions are sinful? This is unchristian, bad theology, and dangerous health policy. I'd rather be "pc" any day.