Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!mash From: mash@mips.com (John Mashey) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Data General NEW AVIION machine Keywords: Data General, Avvion, 88000, 88K, MIPS, Motorola, UNIX Message-ID: <1104@spim.mips.COM> Date: 18 Mar 91 20:51:02 GMT References: <1991Mar14.134319.22796@news.larc.nasa.gov> <1991Mar16.073539.823@berlioz.nsc.com> <4183@bnr-rsc.UUCP> Sender: news@mips.COM Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. Lines: 23 Nntp-Posting-Host: winchester.mips.com In article <4183@bnr-rsc.UUCP> tak@bnr-rsc.UUCP (Mike Takefman) writes: >In article <1991Mar16.073539.823@berlioz.nsc.com> my@tern.nsc.com (Michael Yip) writes: >I have a DG AViiON-100 on my desk. Even though it is a 16.67 MHz 88k, DG >insists on calling the box a 17 Mips machine. Xcalc gives me 115/4=28.75 >so I'm guessing that the marketing types are being a little more honest >and refering to a 33 MHz 88k as a 28.75 MIP processor, (unless they >are calling a 25MHz 88k a 29 MIP processor :-). Otherwise I have no info >on this machine. Dhrystone-mips. The "17-mips" AV100 gets something like 10-11 SPECinteger, 7-8 SPECfp. Also, although it is perfectly legal, and DG documents it correctly, something that doesn't show up in the unadorned numbers is the use of compilers chosen on a benchmark-by-benchmark basis, i.e., either 2 different C compilers are used for the 4 C benchmarks, or 2 different FORTRANs for the 6 FP benchmarks, or both. Again, this IS legal, but is why it's nice to get the full-disclosure pages... -- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: UUCP: mash@mips.com OR {ames,decwrl,prls,pyramid}!mips!mash DDD: 408-524-7015, 524-8253 or (main number) 408-720-1700 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems MS 1/05, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086