Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!bywater!scifi!acheron!larouch!larouch!jparnas From: jparnas@larouch.uucp (Jacob Parnas) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: V.32bis and V.17 approved by CCITT Message-ID: <1991Mar17.220044.10341@larouch.uucp> Date: 17 Mar 91 22:00:44 GMT References: <3841.27d78365@hayes.uucp> <1991Mar10.190118.10151@panix.uucp> <3847.27da9192@hayes.uucp> <1991Mar11.231226.17795@panix.uucp> <3852.27de1c60@hayes.uucp> Sender: news@larouch.uucp (Usenet News Program) Organization: Larouch Headquarters Lines: 56 In article <3852.27de1c60@hayes.uucp>, tnixon@hayes.uucp writes: |> |> Except for the introduction of the AT command set itself, Hayes has |> rarely been "first" with anything. Also rarely last, except to the |> extent that EVERYBODY is last at least temporarily, until somebody |> else takes over being last. We prefer to try to be "best" rather |> than "first". |> |> ... |> -- |> Toby Nixon, Principal Engineer | Voice +1-404-840-9200 Telex 151243420 |> Hayes Microcomputer Products Inc. | Fax +1-404-447-0178 CIS 70271,404 |> P.O. Box 105203 | UUCP uunet!hayes!tnixon AT&T !tnixon |> Atlanta, Georgia 30348 USA | Internet hayes!tnixon@uunet.uu.net It seems to me that when a company like US Robotics has a modem that is 50 % faster than Hayes does and has for several months, and the US Robotics can do pretty much everything that the Hayes can, and the US Robotics doesn't really have any major flaws, it is hard to see how Hayes can have the "best" modem. Getting out fast modem standards early is really important to many modem users. Waiting months for Hayes or most other vendors to come out with V.32bis modems, results in months of significantly higher phone bills and significantly lower productivity. I'm not trying to knock Hayes as a whole. They make good modems that are reliable and work as advertised. I was particularly impressed in how well the Hayes V.42bis modem did in the Jan '91 Data Communications Article on high speed modems. Hayes is fortunate to have talented engineers like you designing their modems. The Hayes modem better than anyone in handling line noise in that excellent review. It even did very slightly better than the US Robotics (although the US Robotics V.42bis modem did slightly better in throughput over fairly clean lines). My point is that I think that if Hayes would be doing itself and the modem buying public a big service if it would be more aggressive in trying to get fast modems out the door faster like US Robotics has. Please understand that going with your modem vendor when it lags behind agressive vendors would mean money out of our pockets, higher frustration levels (due to the slower modem) and lower productivity for many months. If you needed to buy a modem now, and tested the US Robotics which seems to work fine in both V.32bis mode and V.32/V.42/V.42bis mode, and Hayes only offers a modem that will run at 2/3 the speed of the US Robotics, and the US Robotics retrains in under 100 ms vs several seconds for the Hayes, which would you buy? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Jacob M. Parnas | DISCLAIMER: The above message is from | | IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Ctr. | me and is not from my employer. IBM | | Arpanet: jparnas@ibm.com | might completely disagree with me. | | Bitnet: jparnas@yktvmx.bitnet \---------------------------------------| | Home: ..!uunet!bywater!acheron!larouch!jparnas | Phone: (914) 945-1635 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------