Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!ria!uwovax.uwo.ca!telecom-request From: bruce@camb.com (Barton F. Bruce) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: 800/950 vs 10xxx And 800 vs Call Me Card Message-ID: Date: 17 Mar 91 09:25:14 GMT Sender: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Organization: Cambridge Computer Associates, Inc. Lines: 55 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 211, Message 3 of 9 In article , "Ralph W. Hyre" writes: > As a CONSUMER of LD services, my only concern is getting good service > at a fair price. The screening mechanisms you mentioned, which try to > force my traffic onto the establishment's chosen provider, are at odds > with this goal. Sorry, I must not have made myself clear. I think 10xxx should always work, and should be free as long as the call is being billed elsewhere. I also think 950 should quietly die, but don't really care all that much. What I was suggesting was for one purpose. The purpose was to have the telcos make life easy for the Hotels that are trying to protect themselves from toll fraud and from expensive equipment purchases. THEIR lobby groups were at the front of the battle trying to KILL 10xxx universal access. 950 they probably are handling 'ok'. 10xxx presented problems. I was simply suggesting that the TELCOs could have made the hotel's life easier (for a small and affordable charge - ha!) and then just maybe the lodging industry wouldn't have done battle with 10xxx. I simply want the hotel to be able to safely let you use 10xxx access without vast expense on their part, and NO risk to them of toll fraud. The only 10xxx traffic the telco could allow on such a screened trunk would be bill elsewhere type. If the hotel wanted dual use trunks, telco could allow 1+ (and yes optionally 011+ for the nit-pickers) of bill to the BTN traffic where the hotel's call accounting box could handle it. All this latter type traffic could ONLY be to the default carrier. > This influences my selection of businesses to patronize. As well it should! And DO let them know why wou will not be back. Better yet ASK EXPLICIT questions before you make hotel reservations. You then get to tell them why you are not booking with them. There is a sleazoid mall north of here in Woburn MA. Though I do like a few of the stores in it, I use their other branches and tell them why. That mall has sunken to COCOT level. A local supermarket's landlord had installed COCOTs. I told the supermarket's central management that it made them look bad especially when the (BIGGER + BETTER) market just down the street has better parking, a free (rather than 50 cents) bank machine, and 10 cent NYNEX coin phones. He was clearly already sensitive to all issues, could do nothing about the parking acreage, or the cash machine service charge, but he quickly did fix the COCOTs. Both phones are now NYNEX 10 cent ones. And it was HIS remote CA base mega-pig absentee landlord that had done it. Do complain loud and long. If they think it hurts their business they may well change it.