Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!ames!ucsd!brian From: brian@ucsd.Edu (Brian Kantor) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Georgia Tech's Restriction on Internet Access Message-ID: <30136@ucsd.Edu> Date: 16 Mar 91 17:22:24 GMT References: <52892@cornell.UUCP> <23887@hydra.gatech.EDU> <1991Mar16.043027.19683@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Lines: 30 Either 1) Georgia Tech has decided to abandon inter-university network research or 2) that "secure host" is going to have a lot of tunnels through it or 3) there will be a bunch of hosts at GAT that are on the network side of the "secure host". Hiding all your machines behind a secure gateway is incompatable with an awful lot of the things that university networking people like to do, it seems to me. I rather expect the end result to be a lot less draconian than the initial announcement would seem to be. But consider: It is very clear to me that the 18 to 25 year old span of the typical undergrad represents a WIDELY varying range of responsibility; the problem ALL we university people are faced with is how to provide the maximum facilities to those capable of handling them, and preventing damage by and to those who are not yet ready. And the hardest part is figuring out who is who, and when the previously immature have become mature. I don't know how to do it, and I'll wager no one else does either. So what do you do? Letting everyone have unrestricted access to the network has caused problems in the past, but it could be that that is the price we have to pay for the advantages gained thereby. Letting no one on to the network makes the network useless. Exams? Hostages? Monetary Bonds? Academic penalties? Someday someone may come up with the right answer. So far as I know, they haven't. Personally, I think GAT has come up with the wrong answer, but we'll have to see. - Brian