Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!airs!ian From: ian@airs.UUCP (Ian Lance Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Citizens of the City of Mind Message-ID: <1225@airs.UUCP> Date: 16 Mar 91 18:38:46 GMT References: <3622.27d4c133@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> <1991Mar11.070712.4223@cs.ucla.edu> <3778.27dd2150@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> Reply-To: airs!ian@uunet.uu.net (Ian Lance Taylor) Organization: AIRS, Waltham, MA Lines: 49 In article <3778.27dd2150@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (daniel lance herrick) writes: >In article <1991Mar11.070712.4223@cs.ucla.edu>, gast@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (David Gast) writes: >> >> Anyway, when did I ever make Equifax my agent and ask them to sell info >> about me? >> >You freely gave information that is valuable and Equifax is selling >it as the agent of the person you gave it to or as their own agent. While the information is freely given, it is easy to not be aware that you are giving out information, and it is hard to become aware, after the fact, that you have given it out. This could be considered a hazard of living in this society, but I would just as soon eliminate the hazard. This is some information extracted from a post to comp.risks (11.28) quoting a Wall Street Journal article (14 Mar 1991, p. A1;A8). (If you don't read comp.risks, you should check it out; if you don't get news, you can get on the mailing lists by sending to RISKS-Request@CSL.SRI.COM). The posting to comp.risks was made by Mary Culnan (mculnan@guvax.georgetown.edu). The rest of this post is quoted from hers (apologies to people who will see it twice). Specific lists cited in the article include: * Metromail's "Young Family Index Plus" which lists about 67,000 new births each week compiled from clipped birth announcements, referrals from Lamaze coaches and names acquired from companies that deal in baby supplies * America List Corp sells lists based on high school yearbook listings about virtually every high school class in the U.S. * Benadryl bought names and addresses (based on phone numbers sold to them) of people calling an 800 number for pollen count information * The Big 3 credit bureaus sell mailing lists based on aggregated credit data, e.g. "Credit Seekers Hotline" of people who recently applied for credit and are "prospects who want to make new purchases" Finally, an Atlanta-based company which prepares marketing questionnaires asks if there has been a recent death in the family. The company's President is quoted, "Death has always been a negative life style change nobody thought could be sold, but I differ. I think it's a very good market." -- Ian Taylor airs!ian@uunet.uu.net uunet!airs!ian Quoted from a courtroom deposition in the Boston Globe of February 18, 1991: Q: Doctor, how many autopsies have you performed on dead people? A: All my autopsies have been on dead people.