Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!rpi!uupsi!rodan.acs.syr.edu!jstewart From: jstewart@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Ace Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix Subject: Re: Are Undergrads, more valuable then working professionals? Keywords: Controversy, Policy, Stipend. Message-ID: <1991Mar14.202303.5159@rodan.acs.syr.edu> Date: 14 Mar 91 20:23:03 GMT References: <1991Mar14.001156.15961@grebyn.com> Organization: Syracuse Univ/Eastman Kodak Co. Lines: 35 This is certainly a worthwhile subject to talk about, and considering the length of the message we'll have topics for years. I am coming from the side of "I am an Undergrad/Grad student" so please take these comments with that in mind. First off, a very key difference in these two groups is income. I realize that "adults <- careful there" have mortgage payments etc, but with a $25,000 year salary, budgetary planning is considerably different than OWEING that 3/4 of that to an institution. (If you believe that to be false, think about a middle class family with one person in college and you will realize that no assistance shows up.) I would never have had the chance to attend USENIX without the Berkeley Grant...are you hearing this? NEVER HAD A CHANCE. While I am not discussing the unemployed issue, I take it the original poster has been to these conferences on his own money. Quite frankly, I cannot do that, you can, so there is something to be said for the way Berkeley is doing things. (i.e. it's right) As for the comparison as to USENIX and UNIX being designed that way, quite frankly I think the comparison is pointless. I don't even understand where it came from or why it was included. Elaborate? :) As for the unemployed issue, I like it. I believe that people without a chance should get one. At the same time, if they are unemployed and receiving unemployment checks, what little I understand I think the money should be directed to a flight to wherever this person is considering working and use that money in a more "get to the employer and interview." Just my opinion. --Ace -- Ace Stewart | Affiliation: Eastman Kodak Company, Rochester, New York jstewart@rodan.acs.syr.edu jstewart@sunrise.bitnet jstewart@mothra.cns.syr.edu jstewart@sunspot.cns.syr.edu ace@suvm.bitnet rsjns@suvm.bitnet