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From: src@scuzzy.in-berlin.de (Heiko Blume)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: Re: Are Undergrads, more valuable then working professionals?
Message-ID: <1991Mar17.231523.27668@scuzzy.in-berlin.de>
Date: 17 Mar 91 23:15:23 GMT
References: <1991Mar14.001156.15961@grebyn.com> <1991Mar14.032459.21530@eng.ufl.edu> <1991Mar15.021241.14858@aeras.uucp> <1991Mar16.224820.
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henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:

>In article <1991Mar15.021241.14858@aeras.uucp> jt@aeras.UUCP (J T McDuffie) writes:
>>	Fair is fair - and just because you're not currently employed
>>	should not mean that you are no longer valuable to the Usenix
>>	community...

>The Usenix Association is not a government agency, able to obtain money
>just by printing more as necessary.  Its funds are limited, and every penny
>of discount given to someone is one less penny available for education,
>publications, standards involvement, etc.  Nor is it a charity, in business
>to help the unfortunate.  Usenix has to focus not on whether you are
>"valuable to the Usenix community" but on whether spending scarce funds
>to help you attend will contribute directly to Usenix's goals.

while talking about standards: i wanted to hack GNU bash to
use POSIX signals, therefore i had to buy 1003.1 to fully
understand the signal facilities. guess what, i'm a student
and had to shell out $100 for it! i'm used to pay the usual
$50 for computer related stuff, but *that* book really hit
the spot :-(

not that i want to say usenix, POSIX etc should offer discounts
for who-knows-who, but they should look into offering discounts
for university/public libraries and tell them. that way they won't
have the problem of spending money on attending while making the
proceedings, standards etc available to everyone.

you know, i started to wonder when the CS library of my >100000 student
university referred me to the local book shops for obtaining
POSIX documents.....
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