Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!batcomputer!llenroc!cornell!uw-beaver!ubc-cs!unixg.ubc.ca!civil.ubc.ca!twong From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers Subject: Re: Found a bug in all Laserjets (??) Message-ID: <1991Mar14.194006.27516@unixg.ubc.ca> Date: 14 Mar 91 19:40:06 GMT References: <1991Mar13.033650.3496@unixg.ubc.ca> <1991Mar13.052303.21648@hoss.unl.edu> <1991Mar13.144650@sdd.hp.com> Sender: news@unixg.ubc.ca (Usenet News Maintenance) Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 43 Nntp-Posting-Host: civil.ubc.ca Thank you for all the emails I've received. I'll just address all the questions/comments here in one post. - Thanks for all the support and sympathy. I thought my question was legitimate as well (I still can't find discussion on this topic in the manual)(And it looks like I'm not the only one who can't find it). I guess I caught Tony on a bad day and I just happened to have asked the "right" question at the "right" time. ;) Thanks again everybody. - Yes, I think this is a major problem in MS DOS world. Thanks for all those who did the tests themselves. The only program I could get graphics printouts while the printer is in Landscape mode is MS Word. (Ooops, I think WordPerfect worked as well). Even the other "major" MS DOS packages such as Freelance, Lotus 123, Grapher, paint programs,... all failed. I haven't tried Windows get because we just got the new version of CorelDraw so I'll test it on that when I'm done. But if Windows doesn't work, this maybe something someone should look into. - The concensous I got, and I agree with, is regardless of who's bug this is (HP or MSDOS programs), this is a "bug". As a programmer, the longest time taken in writing a program is during the testing debugging stage. You must test all combinations of all commands and make sure things work before you release the program. But of course someone somewhere will always try a combination that you've never thought of and crashes the program. ;) - Yes, I do agree that I shouldn't have to learn the PCL language to be able to use the Laserjet. The program is supposed to take care of all that. These things should be hidden from the enduser. And maybe that's why the Laserjet manual doesn't have this note boldface large lettering sticking out somewhere obvious. The only person that actually found something on this is found it in the PCL language section talking about how one would print in landscape in graphics mode by moving the cursor to the right....etc. I didn't care to learn PCL now. When I have time in the future, I'd be interested in learning the language, but don't have time now. Thanks again for all the responses. I'll try Windows and see if it resets the printer into portrait mode before printing. If not, maybe I should address this question in msdos appl programming group. Thomas.