Xref: utzoo comp.periphs:3583 comp.periphs.scsi:2164 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!crdgw1!uunet!xstor!root From: root@xstor.com (Superuser) Newsgroups: comp.periphs,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: R/W optical disks (again!) Message-ID: <1991Mar18.224333.12869@xstor.com> Date: 18 Mar 91 22:43:33 GMT References: <1991Mar6.171838.26771@news.larc.nasa.gov> Organization: Storage Dimensions, Inc. Lines: 73 In article <1991Mar6.171838.26771@news.larc.nasa.gov> kristi@arbs1.larc.nasa.gov (Kristi Skeens) writes: ] ]I posted here recently asking for info on fast writing r/w ]optical disks. I got several responses and appreciate them all. ]Now I have another question: I am running UNIX on a PC, are there ]any optical disk systems that are compatible with this set-up? I w ]as told by someone at Maximum Storage that this animal did not exist. ] ]Also, could some kind soul give me a brief overview of optical disk ]systems or steer me in the direction of good general information? ]I am a neophyte, so anything would help. ] ]TIA, ]ks Kristi, Several companies offer R/W optical technology for the PC style UNIX systems. The current offerings are primarily drives called "Magneto Optical" (MO) drives. The primary manufacturers of these drives are Sony and MaxOptix (a Maxstor subsidiary). Media for these drives come in two flavors, glass and plastic. They each have advantages and disadvantages. Plastic is lighter and spins up and ready faster than glass. It is also less expensive. Glass has better temperature tolerance and better capacities. The Inter- national Standards Organization (ISO) has specified a format that provides 650Mb per cartridge. Note that this is the unformatted capacity. Also note that half is on one side/ half on the other. This means that only 325Mb (unformatted) is available at any given time. The MaxOptix drive (sometimes referred to as the 'Tahiti') allows for 1Gb unformatted on glass cartridges. It can also read and write the ISO format cartidges. The Sony drive(s) only support the ISO format. Please pay attention to power, RF, and cooling for MO drives. They require more power and cooling than a typical magnetic drive. The typical PC doesn't provide enough cooling for the MO drive and some don't have enough power. MO drives put out lots of RFI. The recommendation here is to get an external box/subsystem that is designed for MO use. Several vendors provide this. Almost all MO drives use the SCSI interface. If you are not familiar with this, please ask... There are many experts who monitor this group. Compared to the latest hard disks, MO drives are slow. However, they are fast enough that some folks do actually use them as a boot/root device. Actual throughput on applications is around 70-100 Kbytes/sec. This compares to 200-400 Kbytes on the typical ST506 kind of disk. The actual speed is dependent on the drivers being used and the type of filesystem being utilized. Please note that this was the speed of the leading technology only a year or two ago. Probably the most important thing to watch for is how well supported the optical drive is by your vendor or OS. Is removable support there? Does the operating system understand optical or does the drive have to be jumpered to 'fool' the operating system. Almost no PC UNIX vendors support optical in the native OS. At this point, please allow me the liberty of plugging our products. We offer complete subsystems (Optical and Magnetic) for DOS, UNIX, OS/2, Macintosh, and Novell. These come complete with full driver support. If you would like to know more about our products, please mail me or call. I'll be happy to put you in contact with the right person to answer your questions. Bill Brothers Product Engineering Mgr. Storage Dimensions, Inc. billbr@xstor.COM (408) 879-0300