Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!ogicse!pdxgate!eecs!warren From: warren@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (Warren Harrison) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Software Quality Message-ID: <1962@pdxgate.UUCP> Date: 14 Mar 91 19:14:22 GMT References: Sender: news@pdxgate.UUCP Reply-To: warren@eecs.UUCP (Warren Harrison) Distribution: comp.software-eng Organization: Portland State University, Portland, OR Lines: 37 In article root@afit.af.mil writes: >jgautier@vangogh.ads.com (Jorge Gautier) writes: > >...some stuff deleted... > >>By the way, don't be swayed by the advocates of "integrated CASE >>tools" and "software metrics"-- these people are not software >>developers. > >1) This is a pretty sweeping statement. Seems more likely to be opinion >than fact. > I agree ... some of us do develop software ... for example a product I wrote with my wife just received the 1990 Computer Language Magazine Productivity Award (other Award winners were Microsoft Windows 3.0 and CADRE's Teamwork product), and in general received lots and lots of good reviews in the trade press over the past 3 years or so. Our user base is in the thousands, and we do all our own technical support and upgrades. I don't think you'll find many people who are bigger metric advocates than me (of course the product that won the award was a metric analyzer - but we wrote the product *because* we were metric advocates, we didn't become metric advocates because we wrote the product) Granted, it is a relatively small project (2 people working 3 years to evolve it to its present state - but one of us has a PhD so maybe it's better to say 1.5 people working 3 years ;-) We had both cut lots of code at a variety of places before we ever started tackling this project. Our experiences back then is what turned us into metric advocates. Warren ========================================================================== Warren Harrison warren@cs.pdx.edu Center for Software Quality Research 503/725-3108 Portland State University/CMPS