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From: awessels@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Wessels)
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Subject: Re: Mac and Amiga (Games--Macintosh vs A500)
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Date: 14 Mar 91 18:05:43 GMT
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In article <1991Mar13.230616.1544@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> rjc@wookumz.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell) writes:

>The reason Commodore doesn't come out with new models everyyear is because
>they don't have to. The A2000/3000 are innovative and open enough to last years!

Yeah, and I'm sure the expense of coming out with new models has nothing to do
with it.  Uhuh.

>The Mac was never innovative, it was a slow piece of trash in 1985, and
>if you want to expand it EFFECTIVELY you have to buy a whole new model.
>(like the NeXT pizzabox)

Name the other GUI mass-market machine that was out in 1984.  

Define effectively.  It is trivial to add an accelerator and large display to
a MacPlus.  You can go to 4 meg RAM on the motherboard and pile on several
hard disks.

>I DARE Apple to price systems competitively. The prices of the 
>Mac IIsi/ci/fx are more expensive than most workstations, yet the Mac II
>line are no faster than what you can already put in an A2000 CPU slot, or
>the A3000, or the NeXT.

Apple is becoming more competitive with their low-cost line and the recent 
(March 11) price drops.  (The IIfx 4 meg RAM 160 meg HD model is $5460 at our
university store.)

I love this.  You feel free to compare stock Apple equipment with 3rd party
enhanced Amiga's.  You can add cache cards to the IIci and accelerators to 
the entire II line, including the IIfx.  The fx doesn't do too badly with a 
50Mhz '030.  Or how about a SCSI-2 Nubus busmaster SCSI coprocessor.

>I also DARE Apple to play fair and just, and stop trying to sue other
>companies just because they are competing(GUI wise) or to put excessive
>restrictions on their ROMs.

Ridiculous.  Why should Apple stop sueing when so many other companies are also
doing it.  As for the ROMs, why should Apple have to sell you ROMs?