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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Mac and Amiga (Games--Macintosh vs A500)
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Date: 14 Mar 91 22:57:05 GMT
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In article <4239.27de4b9d@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) writes:
>In article <1991Mar12.224905.4774@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, rjc@geech.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell) writes:
>> been overpricing their products for years! The Mac Classic is nothing more than
>> a repackaged Mac (e.g. Old technology) with a slightly lower price and a 

>The Classic was totally redesigned. I forget the numbers, but it uses 
>significantly less amount of chips than the Mac Plus, and it is faster than 
>the old SE. I believe Amax or Spectre for the ST would have trouble keeping 
>up with it now.

I doubt it.  Most of the redesigns for Macs have been "further integration",
or "should have been this way to begin with".  As with any system, you can
build a single new chip to replace a handful on an older board.  The problems
fixed in the SE, like the old Mac variable speed floppy, really shouldn't have
been there in the first place.  After all, the C64's 1541 used variable 
sectoring, like the Mac, and was doing it via variable density read/write
rather than changes in motor speed since the beginning.  Other reductions in
unnecessary CPU overhead in the newer Macs can only bring them up to the level
of the Amiga, or the ST for that matter.  And any graphics manipulations on
these slower 68000 machines will be done faster if you let the Amiga blitter
do it, no question about it.

>I would like to see how an Amiga 1000 would compare to a IIfx!! (Right, 
>this is a good matchup.) The IIfx is a mighty formidable machine, I'd like 
>to see Unix running on a A1000.

Strangely enough, the first 68020 prototypes and primitive Amiga UNIX was
run an A1000.  UNIX isn't going to run on a stock A1000 any better, of course,
that it would run on a stock Mac SE or Atari ST.  You can, however, upgrade
an A1000 to be UNIX capable in an Amiga supported fashion, something you can't
do on most of these other systems.

>Ryan 'Gozar' Collins 	  Question for IBM Users:      rlcollins@miavx1.BITNET

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