Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cbmvax!bagate!dsinc!unix.cis.pitt.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rphroy!caen!uwm.edu!linac!mp.cs.niu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!cs326ag From: cs326ag@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Loren J. Rittle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Innovation (was Re: Mac and Amiga (Games--Macintosh vs A500)) Message-ID: <1991Mar15.094649.23634@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 15 Mar 91 09:46:49 GMT References: <1991Mar13.221028.8703@neon.Stanford.EDU> <19880@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1991Mar15.092133.16140@neon.Stanford.EDU> Reply-To: l-rittle@uiuc.edu (Loren J. Rittle) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 27 In article <1991Mar15.092133.16140@neon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes: > It's also a lot newer than NuBus. NuBus was originally designed a >long time ago (I recall reading about it and Futurebus back in the >early '80s). I guess Apple could have chosen to take a proprietary >tack with their bus, but this was at the time when NuBus was still >being seriously considered as the next alternative to the ISA >architecture (before EISA reared its head). Apple decided to go the >open route for a change, and then nobody followed them :-( (except for >some of those TI machines) But, Apple took a proprietary track with their bus! They use a non-standard form factor, thus ruling out any sort of openness normally implied by using a `standard'. I believe NeXT uses the standard form factor with their implementation. Apple likes doing that (I have noticed...), they take a standard (a cutting edge standard, no doubt) and slightly mutilate it when they implement it! They did it with SCSI (the hardware interface, not the software interface, thank someone) and they did it with NuBus. I will say this, without Apple's backing, SCSI would not be where it is today. For this, I am quite happy. A lot of those PC type interfaces suck dead b... Loren J. Rittle -- ``NewTek stated that the Toaster *would* *not* be made to directly support the Mac, at this point Sculley stormed out of the booth...'' --- A scene at the recent MacExpo. Gee, you wouldn't think that an Apple Exec would be so worried about one little Amiga device... Loren J. Rittle l-rittle@uiuc.edu