Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!geech.ai.mit.edu!rjc
From: rjc@geech.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Mac and Amiga (Games--Macintosh vs A500)
Message-ID: <1991Mar15.210028.23985@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: 15 Mar 91 21:00:28 GMT
References: <7921@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <ml5G*ez!@cs.psu.edu> <45655@ut-emx.uucp>
Sender: daemon@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu (Lucifer Maleficius)
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 37

In article <45655@ut-emx.uucp> awessels@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Wessels) writes:
>In article <ml5G*ez!@cs.psu.edu> melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes:
>>Ethernet is overkill.  You must be joking.  Anything less is
>>unacceptable.
>>
>>-Mike
>
>You don't know what you are talking about.  I have 36-odd Macs, 1 PC, 4 
>laserprinters, and 3 networked ImageWriters on LocalTalk and I haven't seen
>the network bog down yet.  We have one file server and 2 users on a multi-user
>database.  Faster would be nice, but we don't have the $.

 What's you defintiion of bogged down? Come on, AppleTalk as a fileserver?
The suns and hp's on these FSF machines use 1 netmounted fileserver
for all 1000+ users on this system. The transfer rates are in the megabytes
per second, and these machines STILL bog down sometimes. Guess what,
there are only about 8 workstations on this Ethernet network (including
a Sun Sparcstation). If Sun and HP workstations bog down on Ethernet,
think what 36 Mac's on a slow networking system like AppleTalk will do.

 My definition of bogged down is, if I try to copy a 1 megabyte file and
it takes 20-30 seconds.

 This AppleTalk discussion is overlooking 2 important points.
1) DoubleTalk on the Amiga supports AppleTalk (Amiga<-->Mac) and a
modified version of AppleTalk (Amiga<-->Amiga) which is faster and better.
2) DNET/Parnet/NET can provide AppleTalk like networking for free.


 If I were in charge of setting up a lab full of networked machines
the obvious choice would be Ethernet, hands down. (or AmigaNet for
an Amiga only lab.)

Why Ethernet? It's Fast, it's standard, and it's fairly universal.

BTW, when is Commodore going to get an Internet connection? I'd like to
see an ftp site set up on an A3000UX :-)