Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!midway!quads.uchicago.edu!jcav From: jcav@quads.uchicago.edu (john cavallino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Mac and Amiga (Games--Macintosh vs A500) Message-ID: <1991Mar16.020812.14656@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: 16 Mar 91 02:08:12 GMT References: <1991Mar15.092920.16477@neon.Stanford.EDU> <1991Mar15.165054.27261@convex.com> <1991Mar16.013410.13890@neon.Stanford.EDU> Sender: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu (john cavallino) Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 41 In article <1991Mar16.013410.13890@neon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes: >swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren) writes: > >>In article <1991Mar15.092920.16477@neon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes: >>>daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes: >> [...] >>>>Certainly not MOST Mac IIs. The IIcx here in my lab only has two banks of >>>>SIMMs. It supports (at least I think it does...) up to 16Mbit SIMMs, which >>>>would give you 32MB, if fully populated. ^^^ >>> >>> Hmm... you must have been thinking of beer last night Dave. 2 banks of SIMMs >>>= 8 SIMMs * 16MB each = 128MB. A firm demonstrated just such a setup >>>at January's MacWorld (of course I wouldn't like to pay for that much memory) >> [...] > >>Dave clearly stated 16 Mbits, not 16 Mbytes. If you want to take issue, you > > Whoops. I missed the Mbit, although I can offer in my defense the >fact that I've never seen anyone quote SIMM capacities in terms of >bits. When I go down to the local Fry's I buy 256K byte SIMMs, or 1M >byte SIMMs, or 4M byte SIMMs. > Anyway, the maths [<- note the spelling :-)] is still wrong. If you >have a 16Mbit SIMM, that means there's 2MB of RAM on the SIMM. Now, >there are EIGHT SIMM sockets on the Mac IIcx, so that would make 16MB >of RAM total, not 32. > Also, the IIcx doesn't accept 2MB SIMM chips, only 256K, 1MB, 4MB >and 16MB SIMMs, so plugging in a 16Mbit SIMM wouldn't work. > > Who cares really? What's a factor of 4 between friends? :-) SIMMS are sized in megaBYTES. Most SIMMs have 8 (9 with parity) Nx1 chips on them, making the SIMM capacity N bytes. (yes, I know Apple's newer 256K SIMMS have two 256x4 instead of eight 256x1). I suspect (never having seen one) that the SIMMs in question have eight 16megabitx1 chips, giving each a capacity of 16MB. I suspect the original poster merely made a typo. -- John Cavallino | EMail: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu University of Chicago Hospitals | USMail: 5841 S. Maryland Ave, Box 145 Office of Facilities Management | Chicago, IL 60637 "Opinions, my boy. Just opinions" | Telephone: 312-702-6900