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From: thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Innovation (was Re: Mac and Amiga (Games--Macintosh vs A500))
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Date: 16 Mar 91 07:32:05 GMT
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In article <1991Mar15.092133.16140@neon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>>[...]
>>The Amiga UNIX has the potential to attract UNIX people to the Amiga,
>>since it is in all ways a modern, standard UNIX.  
>
>  This has already been well beaten out on this group, but I fall in
>the camp who have a hard job seeing Unix people being attracted to an
>Amiga when they could have a NeXT instead.
> [...]
>Evan Torrie.  Stanford University, Class of 199?       torrie@cs.stanford.edu

Judging from his signature line, it would appear Evan hasn't yet endured the
real world of (business) computing.

Hey, I like nifty things, too!  :-)

I cannot believe people would want a NeXT when, for only a few million more,
they could have a Cray.

But ...

Commodore is in the business of making money and selling computers.  As for
NeXT, I don't know, 'cause they sure haven't sold or delivered much to date.

Simply by Commodore's correct decision of having supported SVR4 UNIX, they are
assured of a LOT of sales to those who must comply with government purchasing
mandates and the like, to those who must comply with "standards" and the like,
and to those who want the best of several worlds.

My own company is effectively "dumping" the Mac ][ A/UX systems and I'll be
probably converting them to print servers for the secretaries and/or to
endless loops of MacPlayMate machines since they (the A/UX systems) aren't
even suitable for use as uucp nodes (hey, just try a newsfeed with a Telebit).

Even the latest Mac 7.0 OS which I just received this past week is junk; but it
looked real pretty sailing off into the sunset with the starlight glinting off
the CD-ROM surface as it flew westward out my window and over the fence towards
the distant horizon.   Sigh, shoulda captured those moments with Video Toaster
and sent the tape to Sculley.  And maybe a similar tape featuring a NeXT
optical disk's maiden flight should be sent to Jobs, except it'd probably end
up misunderstood and be "featured" as a new use for NeXT technology.  Sigh.

SO what are we getting?  Simple!  A3000UX SVR4.  A *REAL* computer system.
A computer system that's GSA approved.   A computer system for the billyuns
and billyuns of us!  :-)

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ]