Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!mips!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur!petunia!csuchico.edu!greyfire From: greyfire@ecst.csuchico.edu (Thomas L. Talley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Mac and Amiga (Games--Macintosh vs A500) Message-ID: <1991Mar16.195714.19839@ecst.csuchico.edu> Date: 16 Mar 91 19:57:14 GMT References: <45655@ut-emx.uucp> <1991Mar15.210028.23985@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: greyfire@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Tom Talley) Distribution: usa Organization: California State University, Chico Lines: 45 In article <1991Mar15.210028.23985@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> rjc@geech.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell) writes: >In article <45655@ut-emx.uucp> awessels@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Wessels) writes: >>In article melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes: >>>Ethernet is overkill. You must be joking. Anything less is >>>unacceptable. >>> >>>-Mike >> >>You don't know what you are talking about. I have 36-odd Macs, 1 PC, 4 >>laserprinters, and 3 networked ImageWriters on LocalTalk and I haven't seen >>the network bog down yet. We have one file server and 2 users on a multi-user >>database. Faster would be nice, but we don't have the $. > > What's you defintiion of bogged down? Come on, AppleTalk as a fileserver? >The suns and hp's on these FSF machines use 1 netmounted fileserver >for all 1000+ users on this system. The transfer rates are in the megabytes >per second, and these machines STILL bog down sometimes. Guess what, >there are only about 8 workstations on this Ethernet network (including >a Sun Sparcstation). If Sun and HP workstations bog down on Ethernet, >think what 36 Mac's on a slow networking system like AppleTalk will do. > I work in a computer lab with 25 Macs, 10 PC's, 1 laserprinter, and 3 imagewriter II's. The Macintosh side runs under the native AppleTalk while the IBM side of the network runs on ethernet. Yes the one IBM [actually a Zenith] '286 with a 77Mb drive acts as the file server. Of course your not complaining as much about the speed. Your running LocalTalk, that is the step up in networks from AppleTalk. I know the 1 SE/30 in the network has it and it works about 2 to 3 times faster on loading things from the server. To load your typical program takes 1 to 1.5 minutes. Loading Pagemaker takes 2.5 minutes. That is a very bogged down network. On the IBM side with the ethernet it takes 20 seconds to load Word Perfect, And we are running a script that does 3 or 4 other things during loading as well. > My definition of bogged down is, if I try to copy a 1 megabyte file and >it takes 20-30 seconds. > Tom Talley -- Tom Talley greyfire@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu