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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Still no Ami businessware.
Message-ID: <19952@cbmvax.commodore.com>
Date: 18 Mar 91 20:16:28 GMT
References: <39774@cup.portal.com> <39832@cup.portal.com> <1991Mar6.201318.11662@acd4.acd.com> <19656@cbmvax.commodore.com> <12017@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
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In article <12017@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> navas@cory.Berkeley.EDU writes:
>In article <19656@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:

>Sure, but Commodore is *not* performing its half of the dance.  WE can't
>blame the engineers, they seem to be working very hard -- and if they had
>twice as many, they might actually be able to get all the things they want to
>get done, done in a reasonable amount of time.  

No, actually, that would just double the number of things we want to get
done, and the timeframes would remain the same.

>That cannot be *our* responsiblity though, can it?

Everyone should live up to their level of responsibility, of course.  C= is
absolutely responsible for developing the system hardware and OS, and does
what it can to deliver add-in boards that it considers reasonable and tries to 
evalangize the system, convincing companies to port their software.  That
doesn't mean that C= has $10 million tucked away for every 3rd party software
package out there.  3rd parties certainly do have their responsibilities.  They
should do their part to create useful programs that obey C='s programming
rules and go through a reasonable test before shipping.  Doing it right will
help these guys out, doing it wrong will harm the entire Amiga community.  
Users have the responsibility to buy programs rather than stealing them, and 
prehaps to seek intelligent solutions to their problems rather than wontonly
bandmouthing the system for no good reason.

This is the same for all systems.  However, in the PC "environment", no single
member can completely change the market on their own; even IBM and Microsoft
will find someone else doing it better if they don't keep up.  And no amount
of yelling on the part of users is going to have a significant bad impact.  The
Mac market isn't as permanent as the PC clone market, but it's pretty solid.
Even the overpriced Macs haven't been a significant problem until recently.  
The Amiga market, especially in the US, is much more fragile.  It's also, in 
many respects, much more alive.  

>>It cannot perform miracles, anymore than Delaware can
>>decide on its own to solve the problems that currently exist in the 
>>ecopolitical environment we call the USA.

>Flawed argument -- the USA is a democracy, Commodore is not.

Commodore does not have absolute, arbitrary control of the Amiga market,
either.  No member of any active environment is all-powerful.  Commodore
certainly has the greatest influence of any member of the Amiga market, but
that alone can't solve every problem overnight, nor can it convince developers
on other platforms to come over in droves.

>David Navas                                   navas@cory.berkeley.edu

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