Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!liuida!isy!lysator.liu.se!zap From: zap@lysator.liu.se (Zap Andersson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio Subject: Re: MED 3.0 thoughts (was: MED 3.0 on ab20!) Message-ID: <535@lysator.liu.se> Date: 16 Mar 91 21:03:19 GMT References: <1991Mar16.122237.29902@cc.tut.fi> Sender: news@isy.liu.se (Lord of the News) Organization: Lysator Computer Club, Linkoping University, Sweden Lines: 89 s117986@lehtori.tut.fi (Salmij{rvi Janne) writes: >From article , by t22918@ursa.calvin.edu (Matt Ranney): >> At long last! MED 3.0 has been uploaded to ab20.larc.nasa.gov by some >> very cool person. This version looks very, very good. I haven't had >> time to really play around with everything yet, but it includes: built >> in sampler/editor, built in synth sound editor, and better handling of >> NoiseTracker songs. If you plan on doing any music writing on the >> Amiga, *THIS* is the program for you. Try this before you dick around >> with any of those other non-multitasking monsters. >> -- >> Matt Ranney mranney@wybbs.mi.org >> t22918@ursa.calvin.edu mranney@mole.ai.mit.edu (or any other FSF machine) > Here is what I think of this long awaited editor: >I got it last thursday and I've been examining it since then. First thing that >struck me when I loaded it was the outlook... It was still the same ugly screen >except the new menubar. And there was this annoying guy still left to jump (or >not to jump) to the pointer (sorry Topi but I think your bitmappersonality >is pretty annoying). Although I have to say that the way it looked didn't hide >the amount of options there... (when I start creating/composing noise with any >editor, the outlook affects the result. I just can't make good tunes with lousy >looking editor, when with neat editor it is much more easier. There is this >psycholical(?) thing you know) > Anyway I just ignored the outlook and went deeper inside... >Midi was there (as in 2.13), nice. Although it is quite unnecessary for >anything else than just editing, it's no sequencer you have to admit. >And sample-editor is great and synthsounds, wow! It includes almost the best >syntheticsounds on amiga (I think SidMonII sounds better but I just saw a >glimpse of it). 'Programminglanguage' for them sounds great and it is great >when I tested it. With it you can create a sound that you wished, almost ;) >And yes it multitasks quite well, but but... Do I need a multitasking editor ? >Nope (at least not yet), with one Meg (and only 512 kbs of it Chipmem) it isn't >very wise to use mem for something else when composing. Besides I'd like to >hear what do you all who run after multitasking editors run with those ? >Nowadays when the editors have sampler and sample-editors they have everything >you need when making music in themselves. >And the editing is quite easy too. But it is in every program nowadays... > So here is the conclusion: > + Synthsounds > + MIDI > + Lotsa commands and options > - Outlook > > Hmm... Now I can't leave this thing out ;) >What does MED3.0 possibly offer you need that is not in Protracker1.1b ? >(except then a 'possibly-bug-free' program, PT1.1b still has some bugs left) >And what is wrong with PT's multitasking ? I think it works as well as MED. First of all, I disagree with the 'ugly' part. Secondly, MED gives you the MOST IMPORTANT FEATURE IN AMIGA SEQUENCERS EVER! (Totall ignoring the 'note' style editors such as sonix and DMCS, of course ;-): Note timing and length! When you learn to use tho HOLD/DECAY feature, you will find that you have NEVER before made MUSIC, just stupid sounds in sequence. I think this, however tiny feature, is the absolutely best one there is. For you who don't know what it is: MED 3.00 allows control over 'note up' and 'note down' for MIDI, and for built in sounds too. You may create long notes, short notes, stacatto and other VERY interesting effecs. This gives an artistic tool that is umatched in other editors in the same range. In all other similar editors, you are forced to increase temp to do the same thing as MED does so elegantly. I personally simply love it, and have thereby deleted all oither MIDI sequencers in my machine, replacing them with MED. ( Note that these opinions are quite personal, since the feature in question is so utterly perfect for the type of music I do. Others may not find it as useful, but I love it! Others are entitled to their own opinions, of course! > Since I haven't still found NT2.1 I use PT1.1b (med offers nothing >except synthsounds that are worth using which are not in PT, and when I want >to use synthsounds I use Futurecomposer or something like that) >-- > Janne Salmij{rvi > s117986@cc.tut.fi -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (This rent for space) * My signature is smaller than * Be warned! The letter 'Z' is Copyright 1991 * yours! - zap@lysator.liu.se * by Zap Inc. So are the colors Red, Green and * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Greenish-yellow (Blue was taken by IBM) -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (This rent for space) * My signature is smaller than * Be warned! The letter 'Z' is Copyright 1991 * yours! - zap@lysator.liu.se * by Zap Inc. So are the colors Red, Green and * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Greenish-yellow (Blue was taken by IBM)