Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!ria!obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca!macdona From: macdona@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (magundi ( John A A MacDonald )) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations Subject: Re: For Sale: Mac software on Amax format disks Message-ID: <2497@ria.ccs.uwo.ca> Date: 17 Mar 91 19:04:24 GMT References: <1991Mar15.175201.8811@uwovax.uwo.ca> <16676@chopin.udel.edu> Sender: news@ria.ccs.uwo.ca Organization: University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Lines: 89 In article <16676@chopin.udel.edu> jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: >In article <1991Mar15.175201.8811@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4225_5105@uwovax.uwo.ca ( magundi ) writes: >>For sale >> >>10 disks of Mac Software in Amax format >>Many utilities, cdevs, inits, applications, games >>and also system 6.0.5 disks. >> >>$20 > > >As Monitor of this group, I cannot allow you to sell this.. especially >on my board.. for instance, the system 6.0.5 is illegal to sell >mah friend, and I am asking you polietely to cancel this >article at once, and I urge all of you NOT to buy any software >that *IS* infact already IN amax format. Why NOT?? Not ANY software? >This is illegal besides immoral. IS IT??? Illegal? Immoral?? read on. >I cannot condone it, and I will not have it. Please cancel your >article. nope But I will modify it. four of the disks were the MAC system disks, The other 6 are Public Domain programs. Nothing illegal in selling PD software at least. Certainly nothing immoral about selling PD software in AMAX format. I am charging a very low copying fee for the PD software. As far as even using the MAC software on the Amiga it is illegal, at least as far as Apple is concerned. The possible exception being that you own a MAC and you have transfered the ROM's into AMAX and use it to run MAC programs instead of your MAC. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- extracted from my Macintosh System Software User's Guide. This manual and the software described in it are copyrighted, with all rights reserved. Under the copyright laws, this manual or the software may not be copied, in whole or part, without written consent of Apple, except in the normal use of the software or to make a backup copy of the software. The same proprietary and copyright notices must be affixed to any permitted copies as were affixed to the original. This exception does not allow copies to be made for others, whether or not sold, but all of the material purchased ( with all backup copies ) may be sold, given, or loaned to another person. Under the law, copying includes translating into another language or format. You may use the software on any computer owned by you, but extra copies cannot be made for this purpose. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sounds to me like having anything about Amax in a newsgroup is condoning illegal activity. Because unless you own a Mac, having the system software is pirating software from APPLE. I strongly suggest that we all stopping talking about AMAX because we are condoning piracy. But seriously, at almost any Apple dealer you can take some disks and get copies of the MAC system software for free. They do have the right to ask you for your original system disks to verify that you do have the right to the software. The dealer also has the right to charge a nominal copying fee. This fee does not go to APPLE. The latest system software is also available for anonymous FTP, though you need a real MAC to use APPLES equivalent of WARP. I have tried and running AMAX I could un BINHEX, and UNSTUFF the files, but could every time I used apples diskcopy program to put the software on disk, it crashed or hung. Besides 6.0.7 which is available on APPLE.COM doesn't like AMAX. By offering disks in AMAX format I am just trying to make it easy for people who do not have a MAC DRIVE connected up to AMAX. All the software that I am offering is available via FTP. But unless you already have the programs I am offering ( communications, archival ) you will not be able to get the programs onto AMAX. I am not going to make much money, I buy new MAXELL disks for $15 + 15% tax, and a couple of dollars to ship the disks. john macdonald 4225_5105@hydra.uwo.ca