Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ncar!unmvax!uokmax!servalan!epmooch!ben From: ben@epmooch.UUCP (Rev. Ben A. Mesander) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer Subject: Re: Does ARP have problems? Message-ID: Date: 14 Mar 91 21:15:44 GMT References: <1991Mar7.201652.27356@javelin.es.com> <2147@public.BTR.COM> Lines: 54 >In article <2147@public.BTR.COM> thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan) writes: [...] >Hmmm, wondering about all the recent flak over HandShake 2.20c, I recovered >it from floppy (after doing "CLI> delete hand#?" earlier), and noticed that >it (using the ARTM monitor ... great program, by the way) was the ONLY thing >on my system bringing in the ARP library. And HandShake 2.20c is the ONLY >thing on my system(s) that causes a guru without undue provocation. > >Are we "on" to something here? Just curious. I don't really think so... I normally run my Amiga without rebooting, and it lasts about a week at a time. I run ARP, GCC, SAS/C, and AmigaUUCP 1.06D all the time. I have identified three things that cause me to reboot: Handshake 2.12 when I try to 7-bit kermit to a host that uses mark parity, VT100 'hanging' when the CPU is busy during a kermit transfer, and the SoundTracker/NoiseTracker module players that fragment chip ram ferociously. If I could find a good reliable term program with a decent kermit and Zmodem as good as JRComm's that wouldn't crash, I'd be a long way towards making my system more reliable. Right now I use VLT, JRComm, VT100, and HandShake 2.12, because none of them do everything that I need reliably. I have also yet to find a ST/NT module player that will work without hosing my system occasionally. They all seem to be written in 68000 assembler by people who like to beat on the hardware. But no, I use ARP extensively; I have automated most of the routine maintenance of my system with scripts that use ARP features (things like $() replacement, extended regular expressions, and unnamed pipes), and did not notice a degradation in reliability. I'd really like to iron out the bugs with terminal programs and music players, so I would have a completely reliable system. I am sick of programs that: 1) 'Hang' for no apparent reason. 2) GURU without being tortured. 3) Fragment chip memory to the point where the largest available chunk is 16 bytes, normally shortly followed by a graphics.library GURU due to lack of "emergency memory". The ARP shell doesn't seem to give me the problems that other people describe. For instance, I've heard many people complain that the Lattice and SAS/C installation scripts break under ASH. Every update, and the original script, has worked just fine for me. I don't have any idea what I've installed differently with my ASH. I do use CONMAN for a pipe handler. >Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ] Thad: I *loathe* Seagate also. Keep up the good publicity :-) -- | ben@epmooch.UUCP (Ben Mesander) | "Cash is more important than | | ben%servalan.UUCP@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu | your mother." - Al Shugart, | | !chinet!uokmax!servalan!epmooch!ben | CEO, Seagate Technologies |