Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!helios!aim1!mcl9337 From: mcl9337@aim1.tamu.edu (MARK CHRISTOPHER LOWE) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Subject: Re: A sad day... Message-ID: <13385@helios.TAMU.EDU> Date: 17 Mar 91 19:33:28 GMT References: <27dc15b6-a2e.5comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc-1@vpnet.chi.il.us> <1991Mar16.221739.21956@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Sender: usenet@helios.TAMU.EDU Organization: Academic Computing Services TAMU Lines: 37 In article <1991Mar16.221739.21956@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel) writes: >In article <27dc15b6-a2e.5comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc-1@vpnet.chi.il.us> >akcs.gregc@vpnet.chi.il.us (*Greg*) writes: >>You'd have to buy a $6000.00 - $15,000 >>dollar machine to do the same performance as PC hardware. I can get a fast > When quoting hardware prices, you should try to be fair. Sure, a Mac is >more expensive (usually) than a similarly equipped neighbourhood computer ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >store PC. But how does a Mac compare to an equivalently equipped Compaq? ^^^^^^^^ >Last I looked, the answer was "very favorably". (By the way, I'm not even Precisely the point! We don't HAVE to buy Compaq! Show me a Mac clone that you can go out and throw together yourself for a couple thousand bucks. The main problem here is the proprietary thing. As has been mentioned before, clones have not killed IBM. Perhaps it has lit a fire under their ass to produce better machines (some would argue that it hasn't worked :-) I have to admit that I have fun messing around on a Mac from time to time, but I can never really take them seriously. I didn't mean to start this flame war. It has been more restrained than many in the past, though. When I said "people who are afraid of computers," I really meant that people who doubt their ability to learn something new will gravitate towards the "easy" solution. I think it will hurt them in the future when perhaps they will not have their little pictures and mice. Then... the FEAR comes into play here. "Oh my god, this isn't a Mac. What do I do?" They are looking at C:\> of course! :-) You also mentioned being out of the market for some time. I can assure you, the Mac prices are still outlandish. And yes, so are the Compaq and IBM prices. But, as you said, I can go to Johnny's Rice Box and pick and choose and put together a top-of-the-line system "REAL REAL CHEAP." :-) This has been interesting, if not religious. :-) Mark C. "Bro!" Lowe - KB5III