Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!ns.uoregon.edu!milton!whit From: whit@milton.u.washington.edu (John Whitmore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: Build your own Mac Message-ID: <18500@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 16 Mar 91 00:19:31 GMT References: <1153@sppy00.UUCP> Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware, comp.sys.mac.misc Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 52 In article <1153@sppy00.UUCP> ejm@sppy00.UUCP (Eric Miller) writes: >I noticed in the book store the other day a line of "Build Your Own MAC and >Save Lots of Money" books. I was curious if anybody has had any luck with >building your own Mac (anything from a plus to a ci). I built a Frankentosh (of the 512k variety) from a spare 128k motherboard and some scrap (power supplies, monitors, a game trackball, and one chip to convert the video). It took a half dozen weekends and about $500 (the disk drive was $250, and the motherboard about $200). Of course, I bought the 256k DRAMs at the then-market value, $200, to get it up to 512k. If you can find a Mac+ motherboard, it can be built up for a lot less than I paid (my project was in 1986), and there are books explaining what to do. I spent a couple of weekends examining signals with an o-scope and taking notes on conversion techniques; the one-chip video converter had to invert the video, delay the HSYNC, limit the VSYNC and HSYNC pulse widths, and deliver either separate sync/video or composite RS-170 video. Hint: the chip I used was a 74HC14. The last article on how-to-do-it I saw was rather awkward in its treatment of the video conversion, but there's really NOTHING else that requires more than simple wire-the-connector skills. A friend with simple wire-the-connector skills actually completed a similar project after I'd finished mine (by looking over my shoulder and asking a lot of questions...), and his main problem was in getting the wooden case components to fit. His approach to woodworking was... tedious. He'd cut the parts too big, and sandpaper 'em until they fit. The office was floating in dust for weeks. In addition to books, there have been articles in Byte and Computer Shopper (a series in Sept/Oct/Nov of (?'88)). Power supplies are trivial (the old 63.5W things that used to power PC's before hard disks are MORE than enough for a Mac with all the bells and whistles-and a modern hard disk). Monitors are nearly trivial; old terminals are going for $20 or so at Salvation Army, and the monitors in 'em are separable modules more often than not. The Mac+ (and 128 and 512) mouse interface was trivial; any trackball or mouse could easily be converted for use (ADB is not trivial, however). 800k Fujitsu Mac-compatible floppies are available new at under $100. Buy a keyboard or find an old narrow one that was discarded when the wider Mac+ keyboard was purchased (or buy a DataDesk ADB-style unit). The box is not quite trivial; probably a PC-clone case will be the best option here. It takes a while to get all the wierd holes in the back of the case to come out right. John Whitmore