Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac.system:3548 comp.sys.mac.misc:9607 Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!netnews.upenn.edu!msuinfo!midway!mimsy!tove.cs.umd.edu!folta From: folta@tove.cs.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Apple Computer wins ruling against 'Windows' Message-ID: <31510@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 15 Mar 91 17:24:46 GMT References: <46873@nigel.ee.udel.edu> <1991Mar15.101202.1@csc.anu.edu.au> <27E02D24.699@orion.oac.uci.edu> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Reply-To: folta@tove.cs.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system Distribution: usa Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Lines: 31 >Oh, please. Surely you realize that Apple lifted the interface from Xerox?? As I understand it, the dual claims that Microsoft was making: 1. Whatever Microsoft stole was covered by an agreement with Apple in 1985. 2. That Apple didn't have any legal standing anyhow, since they stole their ideas from XEROX. were both disallowed in this latest ruling. I think I read in the Wall Street Journal that the judge had specifically said that Apple's ideas were unique and were created independently of XEROX. The fact that XEROX lost its suit while Apple's is allowed to go ahead says something. (Though one of XEROX's problems was waiting too long to file suit. Also, I believe that I read that the things that Apple directly borrowed are covered under a secret agreement with XEROX.) On another topic, Microsoft is now in hot water with the government over allegations that it unfairly used its ownership of DOS and Windows to sandbag competitors in the applications arena. It has been alleged that MS talked others into developing for OS/2, while it developed for Windows, knowing full well that it would sacrifice OS/2. MS has more than one legal problem to worry about! I have also read that once the government starts mucking around in MS's internal memos, it can find and prosecute for things that have nothing to do with its initial investigation. It seems that the proverbial 500-lb gorilla (MS) has to tussle with a 400-lb gorilla (Apple) and a 2000-lb gorilla (the FTC). -- Wayne Folta (folta@cs.umd.edu 128.8.128.8)