Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!uc!noc.MR.NET!gacvx2.gac.edu!gacvx2.gac.edu!scott From: scott@texnext.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Xnext (mouse-X) Message-ID: Date: 15 Mar 91 23:59:11 GMT Article-I.D.: texnext.SCOTT.91Mar15175911 References: <1991Mar15.052404.4117@neon.Stanford.EDU> <1991Mar15.212326.19805@neon.Stanford.EDU> Distribution: usa Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College Lines: 68 Nntp-Posting-Host: texnext.gac.edu In-reply-to: zimmer@calvin.stanford.edu's message of 15 Mar 91 21:23:26 GMTLines: 68 In article <1991Mar15.212326.19805@neon.Stanford.EDU> zimmer@calvin.stanford.edu (Andrew Zimmerman) writes: Sorry about all of this X stuff on comp.sys.next. Well, it belongs (as now it's "how do I get X running correctly", rather than "where is X"!) In article scott@texnext.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes: >In article <1991Mar15.052404.4117@neon.Stanford.EDU> zimmer@calvin.stanford.edu (Andrew Zimmerman) writes: > 5. XNext doesn't support the Display postscript extensions that > DEC has added to their X severs that their client programs use. > >:-). That would surprise me, if added, because that's hard. You might >argue that the machine runs DPS, right? Wrong, because the server is a >port of MIT's and writes directly to the frame buffer - DPS doesn't >have a chance to get in there. DPS - I think that people might be misunderstanding my reason for mentioning that Xnext doesn't support DPS. I thought I might be able to save some people the time it would take to see if it did support DPS. The fact that it doesn't support DPS is not a bad reflection on Xnext, just a lack of a feature that some people (okay, maybe 3 people) might like. In my environment, it would be nice to have, but as scott correctly point out, it would have been a lot of work to implement. Sure, that's valid. I didn't know where you were coming from :-). I got it from cunixf.cc.columbia.edu. It consists of about 50 some "split" files that you have to join together after ftping. Then, cd to where you want the X stuff, and do a zcat X11R4-Next-2.0.tar.Z | tar xvf - I just followed the instructions, and it worked fine. If you really don't like to type, get it all into a directory and copy/paste in: cat X11R4-Next-2.0.tar.Z?? | uncompress | tar -xvf - And it's all catted up and uncompressed. OK, minor point, I'll admit. Now, for some more questions and comments about Xnext. 1. How does one kill it off? Yes, kill -9 does work, but there has to be a cleaner way to do it. The default .xinitrc starts up a single xterm session named login. To kill off the server, you have the Quit that (use Control-leftbutton to get the menu and choose Quit). That will kill off everything. If you edit the .xinitrc file to get more stuff started up, then the last command in there is the one that has to end before the server goes away. I'd recommend putting in an xterm there - I've found window managers don't belong there, in case you wish to switch in mid-stride (which we novices like to do :-). 2. xmag doesn't seem to work correctly. I think this has to do with the way that xmag gets data off of the screen. Both xmag on a NeXT, and xmag running on a DEC3100 using a NeXT display had the same wrong image. Yeah, I've noticed that, too. Apparently it scales stuff incorrectly or something. Anyone ported xhextris, yet? I'm addicted . . . Later, -- scott hess scott@gac.edu Independent NeXT Developer GAC Undergrad "Tried anarchy, once. Found it had too many constraints . . ." "I smoke the nose Lucifer . . . Banana, banana."