Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!stanford.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!athena.mit.edu!jfc From: jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin Subject: Re: Summary: Do you run Unix without disk quotas? Message-ID: <1991Mar15.073339.1081@athena.mit.edu> Date: 15 Mar 91 07:33:39 GMT References: <1991Feb15.120048.6591@csv.viccol.edu.au> <1991Mar7.124230.6609@csv.viccol.edu.au> <9DZ98Y8@xds13.ferranti.com> Sender: news@athena.mit.edu (News system) Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 24 In article <9DZ98Y8@xds13.ferranti.com> peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >If you have enough disk >space to hold the sum total of all the quotas, all you've done is create >the equivalent a bunch of partitions without any of the advantages of the >same. If you don't, then you haven't solved the problem of disk space abuse: >just narrowed the window. Narrowing the window is worth a lot in some environments. There are users who will use all available disk space. With quotas, a small number of users can not fill a partition. We don't have the manpower to monitor disk usage and warn users manually, and the average disk usage requires us to overallocate disk space. We have 10000 users but less than 10 gigabytes of space allocated to user filesystems (as distinct from software development or other multi-user projects). Last time I checked, 50% of the users were using a third of their quota or less. If you don't want to overallocate space, quotas still have two advantages over partitions. Quotas can be easily changed, and if quotas are small, you would need a large number of disk partitions. I haven't used an operating system that allows an unlimited number of partitions. BSD normally allows 7 partitions per drive, AIX allows 31. -- John Carr (jfc@athena.mit.edu)