Xref: utzoo comp.unix.admin:1253 comp.unix.internals:2348 comp.unix.programmer:1340 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!samsung!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!emory!kd4nc!n4hgf!wht From: wht@n4hgf.Mt-Park.GA.US (Warren Tucker) Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.internals,comp.unix.programmer Subject: Re: CRASH your TANDEM : was : RE : How do you make your UNIX crash Keywords: panic that kernel Message-ID: <361@n4hgf.Mt-Park.GA.US> Date: 16 Mar 91 17:01:00 GMT References: <690@tndsyd.oz.au> <1991Mar14.202237.23294@ugle.unit.no> <669020852.14148@mindcraft.com> Reply-To: wht@n4hgf.Mt-Park.GA.US (Warren Tucker) Followup-To: comp.unix.admin Organization: Amateur Radio Station N4HGF Lines: 28 In article <669020852.14148@mindcraft.com> karish@mindcraft.com (Chuck Karish) writes: >In article <1991Mar14.202237.23294@ugle.unit.no> >halvard@spurv.runit.sintef.no (Halvard Halvorsen) writes: >>did you fellas read the signature to this guy ??? >> i mean : he works for tandem computers - so the reason why he asks for how >> to crash 'your UNIX' should be obvious ??? ;^) >The answer to that question would probably be more interesting >to "this guy" than would answers about other computers. I talked >to a couple of Tandem engineers after USENIX this January. They >bragged that their systems failed the SVVS (requiring waivers) >because some tests to invoke PANIC messages didn't work; Tandem >UNIX doesn't crash under some of the conditions expected by AT&T. Umm, yeah! A friend of mind talked about his Integrity S2 being forced to crash during a demo (by removing a Large number of Important Cards from the box while it was running!). He plugged them back in and voila, a vi session repainted itself on the terminal next to him. (Flames about potential security issues **entirely** miss the point). There are many hundreds of PANICs in AT&T code. Tandem has it down to nine, all reflecting unforeseen software logic errors. They checksum pcbs and other system databases. It be righteous. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Warren Tucker, TuckerWare emory!n4hgf!wht or wht@n4hgf.Mt-Park.GA.US "An ANSI C elephant: just like the real one, but the position, shape and length of the trunk and tail are left to the vendor's discretion." -- me