Xref: utzoo comp.unix.admin:1261 comp.unix.internals:2351 comp.unix.programmer:1346 Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!auspex!guy From: guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.internals,comp.unix.programmer Subject: SVVS requires a panic? Was: Re: CRASH your TANDEM : Keywords: panic that kernel Message-ID: <6685@auspex.auspex.com> Date: 16 Mar 91 19:57:58 GMT Followup-To: comp.unix.admin Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara Lines: 12 >I talked to a couple of Tandem engineers after USENIX this January. They >bragged that their systems failed the SVVS (requiring waivers) >because some tests to invoke PANIC messages didn't work; Tandem >UNIX doesn't crash under some of the conditions expected by AT&T. That's an interesting claim, but I'm rather skeptical of it. AT&T has done some bogus things in the SVVS (e.g., requiring that "read()", as I remember, actually bump the system time returned by "times()"; this shafted Apollo, because the Domain/OS implementation of "read()" was all in user mode, so it bumped the user time but not the system time), but requiring that the system *panic* wasn't one of them, at least not in the version of the SVVS I've seen.