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From: guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: POSIX bashing (Was Re: Retaining file permissions)
Keywords: chmod, sed, awk... and good old *cat*!
Message-ID: <6706@auspex.auspex.com>
Date: 18 Mar 91 18:51:44 GMT
References: <1991Mar07.073936.12552@kithrup.COM> <9090@sail.LABS.TEK.COM> <1991Mar14.232202.9335@eci386.uucp>
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>Besides, I think there are some versions of termio(7) with newtty-like
>line disciplines.  If not, you could write one instead of complaining
>(or goad someone else into writing one! :-).  On V.4 it's only a
>STREAMS module!

And it has the user-interface features of BSD, as S5R4's "ldterm" is
derived from SunOS 4.x's "ldterm".

>Besides, user-interface extras like newtty are not really appropriate
>for a specification like POSIX.

Yup.  In fact, the user-interface extras that are *in* POSIX, such as
ECHOE, ECHOK, and possibly ECHONL, are probably inappropriate for POSIX
as well....