Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!olivea!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!14!James.Womack From: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org (James Womack) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Sign, mainstreaming an Message-ID: <18114@bunker.UUCP> Date: 15 Mar 91 04:47:06 GMT Sender: news@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:300/14 - The Emerald Isle, Tucson AZ Lines: 46 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 13954 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] Tim, not only is there no ASL system in formal use on which to decide if ASL can successfully be used as a tool for teaching a second languag, but theold Gallaudet days might have demonstratedthatit is successful. If you have watched any of the old films of deaf people "speaking" before an audience, you will note that they fingerspell very advanced vocabulary terms and their speech content is rather complex. Veditz's talk before an audience vowing that as long as there are deaf people in the world, there would sign language is a prime example. He is eloquent his terminology is envious. His savvy for the politics of his time and as well as his ability to time his remarks and phrase them for maximum effect is just astonishing. Oddly enough, watching these old films of Deaf Gallaudetians made me angry. their command of English and very high vocabulary ability reminded me of what many deaf students today don't have in comparsion. I know that Veditz and others were taught with ASL first and that on that platform was built their astonishing command of English. The fact that these living proofs were ignored in favor of hearie philosophy of English only approaches in educating the deaf makes me want to scream, hit something, maybe even choke some of these imbeciles. I mean it really gets to me. Hopefully, we will reverse this in schools for the deaf over time as Deaf people insist more and more on direct involvement in school policies regarding education of deaf children. At my school we are starting what looks to be a process in this direction now. The March 4th meeting appears to have knocked most administrators for a loop. They just sat dumbfounded staring at me after my speech. However, we got an agreement out of the super to adhere to everything inthat speech. We got it in front of all those people. We also have people telling us they are glad to see this happening. Others speak of their fear and not being sure if they belong in the school anymore. This tells me we are having an impact. If the administrators are smart, they will join us in our efforts as requested and make the school very progressive. If denial of equality and professional respect continues, we are prepared to go public and ugliness is such an unnecessary thing, so foolish and such a waste of time. I am hping we will join hand in hand with our hearing staff and make that school the finest in the country because we are perfectly capable of doing just that. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!14!James.Womack Internet: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org