Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!apple!olivea!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!14!James.Womack From: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org (James Womack) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: ASL Message-ID: <18143@bunker.UUCP> Date: 15 Mar 91 05:28:53 GMT Sender: news@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:300/14 - The Emerald Isle, Tucson AZ Lines: 50 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 13983 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] Hey, Jay. You see that post referring to ASL as pig latin? I wonder if the uninformed knows that Japanese and Chinese people consider English a barbarians' noise pretending to be a language? Too bad they don't avail themselves to the research showing the unique character of ASL as a bona fide language. Dr. Sam Supalla and others have recently added to this information. It appears ASL shares certain characters with the vast majority of the languages of the world that English does not. I will tryt o get a hold of that info later. One of the biggest things appears to be word order and consistent gender specific references. English is a hodge podge of of such references and sometimes lack them at all in certain types of sentences. I other words, English is inconsistent. It was an interesting collection of facts regarding languages that fit the most frequent characteristics. ASL was almost always sharing a column with a long list of languages with the same characteristics that make a language a language. On several ocassions, English stood alone. They suspected it might be due to English's heavily borrowing from other languages and twisting the rules for their use so that you get what is generally agreed about English anyway-a mess. I think Dr. Supalla-if I recall right, as I am not sure-suggested that perhaps English itself was not a true language. That was funny. In any case, ASL has been knocked so much as not being a real language that one must wonder how does it manage to remain in existence. I mean, the classic language of latin is practically kaput and it was real enough. I guess Veditz was right in that old film where he said: "We love sign language. It is the noblest gift God gave to Deaf people in all the world. We will preserve it, for as long as there deaf people on the earth, there will be sign language." Languages are the people who use it as much as it is a communication tool of those same people. It is their essence, their doorway to their hearts and souls. Whenever people outside of a culture belittle the language of another people, they are belittling the people themselves. A pity we Deaf people continue to endure such lump sum insults. Well, I guess it is like that old Jew told that Nazi not long ago. You tried to get rid of me, of us, my people. But you know what? We are still here. We are still here and we will always be here. We are all over the world. We won't go away. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!14!James.Womack Internet: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org