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From: d87parfo@odalix.ida.liu.se (Par Fornland)
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Subject: Imagining the imaging - the only solution for me ?
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Date: 18 Mar 91 13:47:02 GMT
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  My first encounter with good imaging was about a year ago in a
shop.  The dealer was trying to sell me a dmp sampler-CD with
excellent sound.  He put the CD in the player and pressed play. He
said nothing about what components he used. The solo guitar came
from somewhere 1.7m up on the wall.  Incidently he had tiny cheap
speakers on a shelf, about 1.7m up on the wall, so I thought:
"That's a clean sound from those little speakers!" After some time
when the dealer was discussing the my friend, I went closer to hear
exactly which speakers he used, of the ones on the shelf. When I
got really close, I discovered, the sound wasn't coming from the
shelf, it came from some strange looking _things_ standing on the
floor.  "WOW! WHAT'S THAT!?!?" - Martin Logan Seq. II it turned
out to be.
  A remarkable experience, had never heard of such a thing ever!
Sound coming from above the speakers!!! Well, let's move on to my
question:

  I have read several news now about imaging, and have become
somewhat irritated on my own system, which refuses to sound outside
the speakers.  The image between the speakers are (IMO) very good,
but have you ever heard a 2.5m wide symphony orchestra?  Ofcourse
I can imagine I'm sitting far back in the hall, but it still doesn't
seem right.  I have put curtains on the whole wall the speakers
are standing at, and on my right wall.  On the opposite wall there
are windows, and behind me I have a bookshelf. There are wool
carpets on the floor. I have thereby reduced most of the reflections
in my quite small student's room.

  My speakers are the new Dahlquist DQ8 (excellent imaging according
to some US-mag. review).  I have a Technics SU-V450 amplifier (well
worth its price according to a swedish mag.), and an old, cheap
and probably relatively lousy CD-player, Technics SL-P111.  The
cables are _really_ cheap.

  How can I improve the imaging, what component makes the most
improvement of the image?  I intend the keep the speakers.  Perhaps
it is impossible [:-(] to make to sound wider with these speakers,
even with highest-end components? In that case I'll just have to
live with it...

My guess about what makes the greatest diff. is as follows:  1.
speakers 2. amp.  3. cables between amp. and speakers 4. cables
between CD-player and amp.  5. CD-player but I'm not at all very
experienced, so it's only a guess.

Would someone please help me out? I think the question is of general
interest!

-- !!!!!!!!!  Sound's good, HiFi's better but Music is the ultimate!
But I think John Cage would disagree! ("Sound's all", he'd say...)
!!!!!!!!!  Par Fornland, Linkoping Institute of Technology, Sweden
Bjornkarrsgatan 10c:10, 582 51 Linkoping, Sweden Tel. (Sweden)-013-260486
d87parfo@odalix.ida.liu.se !!!!!!!!!