Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!zazen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!erb1!osnome!hunting From: sdc@scottsun.cs.umd.edu (Scott Carson) Newsgroups: rec.hunting Subject: Re: steel shot Message-ID: <378@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> Date: 16 Mar 91 12:15:50 GMT References: <361@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> Sender: news@erb1.engr.wisc.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Lines: 44 Approved: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu From: sdc@scottsun.cs.umd.edu (Scott Carson) I find that steel shot is perfectly useful - like anything, practice makes perfect. I have hunted ducks and geese for 3 years with steel. Steel shot is a little different from lead: higher velocity and *much* tighter pattern. The tight pattern probably explains why some people claim it is worthless. I still use a full choke gun, which on long shots (>30 yds) gives a pretty good effect: I either miss completely or kill quickly. On short shots, I am occasionally unlucky enough to ruin the bird. I would probably buy a modified choke (or a variable) if I was buying a new gun. If you are hunting during waterfowl season in a place where there are waterfowl, and if steel is required for waterfowl hunting, then you must use steel for pheasant hunting too. I think that the spirit of the law says that you ought to use steel in marshes even when waterfowl are out of season. Just watch those close-in shots! On a side note, I have never had much luck using the extra large (BBB,T) shot sizes with steel. My theory is that the pattern is too thin. I have found that #2 steel is perfectly deadly even for geese, and I generally use #4 for ducks. On another note, I have found that if your shells get wet (a common waterfowling experience), then you'd better use them up pretty quickly. I have had the shot rust together, forming a nasty ball and blowing the pattern. A few years ago, the Interior department put out a video called (I think) ``Hunting with Steel Shot.'' I found it at a public library. It provides a good tutorial on shooting with steel, including a lot of footage of a government consultant shooting geese consistently at > 60 yards (!). The film also includes tips from champion trap shooters. Scott Carson sdc@cs.umd.edu